<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:24 , John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:18 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Pesonally, I believe we have a terminology problem more than anything else.<br class=""><br class="">At this time, we should no longer be even considering “2-byte” ASNs.<br class=""><br class="">There are two classes of 4-byte ASNs. The idea of 2-byte ASNs should be considered anachronistic.<br class=""><br class="">The classes of 4-byte ASNs are those that are ≤65535 and those that are ≥65536.<br class=""><br class="">The former class can be used as a 2-byte ASN in the rare case of a technological limitation (obsolete routing equipment or equipment with inadequate support for extended communities).<br class=""><br class="">The latter class cannot be used as a 2-byte ASN in such cases.<br class=""><br class="">In all cases, continuing to talk about 2-byte ASNs IMHO contributes to the misperception that the internet has not yet moved on.<br class=""><br class="">I believe that current policy is sufficient. I would prefer that operational practice actually revert to what is in policy and that we no longer treat 4-byte ASNs ≤65535 as being in any way special.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Since parties coming to ARIN are distinguishing between these classes of 4-byte ASNs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">and come back explicitly asking for one ≤65535, are you suggesting that ARIN not hold</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">these lower ones to be able to satisfy such requests?</span><br style="font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div></div>Yes.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I believe that we, more than any other region, have been lazy in our adoption of current internet technologies to the detriment of the internet at large.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I believe that continuing to facilitate this is not providing a useful service to the internet as a whole.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>