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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Though I would also point out that charging less than $500 for a 4-byte ASN (say $100) would act as an economic incentive to use one of those if it would work
in your situation, and it probably does for most locations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Woodfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 8, 2016 1:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bjones@vt.edu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN 2-Byte ASN inventory and issuance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed that we can park this for now, provided we can come up with a measurable turning point (let’s say, where the trend points to 1-2 years from exhaustion) where we should revive the discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Brian Jones <<a href="mailto:bjones@vt.edu">bjones@vt.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe the current practice is sufficient for now. If a sudden run on 2-byte ASN's occurs this issue should be resurrected at that time.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Andrew Dul <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Do other members of the ARIN community believe that the current policy and operational practice is sufficient for now, or are there policy changes needed at this time?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It sounds to me like ARIN is already doing the right thing (saving 2-byte ASNs for people who specifically want them), and that is sufficient for the time being. It does not appear that additional restrictions on who may request a 2-byte
ASN are necessary at this time. If at some point 5+ years down the road the rate of 2-byte ASN demand starts to exceed the recovered supply and the 2-byte ASN inventory is depleted, we can consider a waiting list and/or technical requirements for requesting
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there any other reason we need to consider taking action sooner? Was there something else I'm missing that prompted ARIN staff to start the consultation process around a 2-byte ASN waiting list?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:44 AM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Folks -<br>
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Please forgive this omnibus email of information, but we've had sufficient individual<br>
questions for 2-byte ASN data that it simply made more sense to provide one full<br>
summary rather than reply to each question individually...<br>
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ARIN continues to have classic, 2-byte, AS numbers in inventory. Over the last few<br>
years, we have received small blocks of them in our new delegations from the IANA,<br>
obtained them from customer returns of AS numbers, or through revocations of AS<br>
numbers due to non-payment of registration fees.<br>
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Our last AS block delegation from IANA was on 29 April 2015. We received 99 2-byte<br>
ASNs and 925 4-byte ASNs at that time, and do not expect to receive any additional<br>
2-byte ASNs from the IANA in future delegations. The 2-byte ASNs received from the<br>
IANA in 2015 were added to the inventory and placed on hold. The reason that the<br>
2-byte ASNs were put on hold is that was not responsible to issue from the dwindling<br>
quantity of these resources to parties that did not specifically request such while we<br>
were still receiving AS number requests specifically asking for 2-byte AS numbers.<br>
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As of today, we currently have the following 2-byte ASNs in ARIN inventory:<br>
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387 2-byte AS numbers on hold (most were routed at some point)<br>
535 2-byte AS numbers revoked<br>
133 2-byte AS numbers returned<br>
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= 1,055 2-byte AS numbers returned/revoked/held (Total)<br>
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Customers requesting ASNs receive a 4-byte ASN by default. If a request comes in<br>
that specifically requests a 2-byte ASN, we inform the customer that we have noted<br>
their special request and that we will accommodate it at the issuance phase of the<br>
ticket process if we have 2-byte ASN available at that time.<br>
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Rate of issuance for 2-byte ASNs per month -<br>
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1/2015: 68<br>
2/2015: 77<br>
3/2015: 74<br>
4/2015: 60<br>
5/2015: 7<br>
6/2015: 12<br>
7/2015: 16<br>
8/2015: 4<br>
9/2015: 7<br>
10/2015: 11<br>
11/2015: 7<br>
12/2015: 11<br>
1/2016: 5<br>
2/2016: 6<br>
3/2016: 13<br>
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A waiting list will only be applicable after depletion of the present 2-byte ASN inventory,<br>
hence the following general run-out estimates are provided for consideration:<br>
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- If we release all of the 2-byte ASNs from hold and issue ASNs strictly from smallest<br>
to largest, i.e. the practice prior to May 2015, it is likely that the current inventory of<br>
2-byte ASN’s would last somewhere between 6 to 12 months.<br>
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- If we continue the current approach (wherein 4-byte ASNs are issued by default and<br>
2-byte ASNs are only issued upon special request), the current inventory of 2-byte<br>
ASNs would appear to last for many years (5+ years at present rate).<br>
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I hope the above information helps in your policy development efforts!<br>
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Thank you,<br>
/John<br>
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John Curran<br>
President and CEO<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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