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On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Jose R. de la Cruz III <<a href="mailto:jrdelacruz@acm.org" class="">jrdelacruz@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">RE: ARIN-2015-8<br class="">
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4.<span class="" style="font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span><span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Should End-Users who want to be able to re-assign records simply
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<span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">--->No. Why should they? <br class="">
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<div class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="">5.<span class="" style="font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Should
the ISP/End-User distinction be eliminated (which is a bigger discussion outside the scope of the current problem statement)?<br class="">
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<div class=""><span class="" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">---> No. They are different type of business entities and should be serviced according to their needs.</span></div>
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<div>I have no comment either way regarding the particular policy proposal under</div>
<div>discussion, but would like to provide some background that may aid in further</div>
<div>consideration of the question:</div>
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<div>- The distinction between “end-user” and “ISP” is very clear in many cases, </div>
<div> but not universally. Examples where it is less clear include university and</div>
<div> college systems, large enterprises which may provide services to many </div>
<div> entities of various degrees of affiliation (wholly-owned, partially-owned,</div>
<div> joint entity, business partner), hosting/cloud/cdn providers (where the line</div>
<div> between infrastructure and customer can be quite blurry at times), etc.</div>
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<div>- The desire to between ISP and End-User (or visa-versa) may be driven</div>
<div> by fee or policy motivations, but we have seen an increase in end-users</div>
<div> who wish to re-assign blocks in order to have more accurate information</div>
<div> in the database regarding the actual address usage, particularly with </div>
<div> respect to their geolocation data. </div>
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<div>Today ARIN tries to work with ISPs and end-users who wish to change </div>
<div>their categorization, but understandly we lack clear guidance for what </div>
<div>is becoming an increasingly blurry distinction. For additional context,</div>
<div>refer to the ARIN 31 Policy Experience Report (where this issue was </div>
<div>raised) - <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_31/PDF/monday/nobile_policy.pdf" class="">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_31/PDF/monday/nobile_policy.pdf</a></div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
<div>President and CEO</div>
<div>ARIN</div>
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