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On Dec 3, 2015 2:35 PM, "Christian Tacit" <<a href="mailto:ctacit@tacitlaw.com">ctacit@tacitlaw.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I am writing on behalf of the ARIN AC to seek additional input from the community regarding how (or if) we should proceed with ARIN-2015-8.<br>
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> The feedback received at ARIN 36 and in subsequent AC discussions has been very mixed and there is no community consensus for the proposal in its present form.<br>
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> Some of the main points made at ARIN 36 and the subsequent AC meeting were:<br>
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> 1. Orgs should not be able to by-pass the fee structures and other policy consequences of being classified as ISPs, and the draft policy would facilitate this type of by-pass;<br>
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> 2. Some of those who shared the concern in point 1. said that they would still support allowing Orgs to SWIP to themselves (and possibly to related Orgs) to facilitate geolocation and this will be even more important in an IPv6 environment where assigned address blocks are much bigger and so often not used at one location;<br>
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> 3. ARIN already allows RWHOIS to be used by End-Users, which leads to the question of whether this avenue should be foreclosed, End-User SWIPs should be allowed or the status quo should be left in place;<br>
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> 4. Should End-Users who want to be able to re-assign records simply be required to become ISPs?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I am strongly opposed to a requirement for end users to become ISPs solely for the purpose of re-assigning records. Cost is not the only concern here. <br></p>
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> 5. Should the ISP/End-User distinction be eliminated (which is a bigger discussion outside the scope of the current problem statement)?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Possibly. However if this causes costs to increase for end users, then I would say no. As a state university keeping ongoing costs to a minimum is imperative to operation. We don't make money so justifying additional costs for the same resources is nearly impossible.</p>
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> 6. If the ISP/End-User fee distinction were eliminated, would there still be opposition to the draft policy?</p>
<p dir="ltr">This depends on what happens to end user costs, see above.</p>
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> 7. To what extent is there value or do problems get created if End-Users can SWIP (i.e., improving the accuracy of database information vs. possibly facilitating a “grey market” where the true registered users of numbering resources are not known)? and<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Improving accuracy of database information is a necessary axiom, but it is arguable as to whether end user access improves or lessens database accuracy.</p>
<p dir="ltr">> 8. Does the problem statement need to be reformulated, and if so, how?<br>
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> If you would like to see further work on this policy, please let us at the AC know what form you think that work should take. If you think the policy should be abandonded altogether we would like to know that as well.<br>
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> Thank you.<br>
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> Christian S. Tacit,<br>
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