<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top"><div>My argument on this matter, and on internet governance in general, is that ICANN, the IGF, MAG, ISOC, DCAD, AKIN, etc act like glorified travel agencies. <br /><br />But traveling does not equal leadership. Regardless of how a DC group conducts its democratic discussions on the maiking list, the Chair of a DC group should be spending the majority of time talking to the Secretariat or other higher ups at MAG, the IGF and the UN about gaining more funding, more legal representation, more of everything for the DC, zero time should be spent explaining to the group why something meaningful like the project I proposed cannot get accomplished. <br /><br />I'm no longer participating in this discussion or any subsequent discussion on this mailing list, so please, everyone go back to the new 21st century "pretend we are working" mindset where traveling is now the primary accomplishment of
world leaders. The DC groups were only created by MAG so that the IGF would have something to gesture towards and say, "Look we are involved in 'progress', we are accomplishing, heck or dynamic coalitions traveled to a conference just last week and discussed important issues! But don't worry, the chair will get you a summary of our conference discussions soon!"<br /><br />There is a reason why the greatest technological accomplishments in the past 5 years have been driverless cars, drone technology and the apple IWatch, progress is stalled because people in power are saying to themselves, things are good the way they are but people always want more progress. To remedy that "human want for continuing progress", let's do our best to pretend we are progressing, and if anyone figures out the IG scheme to define an utter lack of progress as progress, we will just pretend they are crazy and kick them out of the mailing list or quiet them down somehow, then go
back to the planning the next trip. As long as humanity sees the illusion of progress. the less humanity is likely to object to the lack of progress. That is what the G8, the G20 and every other world conference is all about, the illusion of progress for the poor and middle classes of the world to observe and say to themselves, hey that is real progress, they traveled and met and talked, that is progress. No it isn't, it is the maitenance of the status quo, because when you got millions or billions of dollars who really wants to spend any time on real progress when you can create the illusion of progress and spend the majority of time enjoying the good life.<br /><br />Ron</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_">
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Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN forcing everyone to sign the new RSA? <br>
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<td valign="top">On Oct 29, 2015, at 6:55 PM, David Huberman <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:David.Huberman@microsoft.com" href="javascript:return">David.Huberman@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> (Answering my own questions a little bit, even though that's a tad gauche.)<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I see the ARIN website has some text I haven't seen before. At:<br clear="none">> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.arin.net/resources/agreements/index.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/resources/agreements/index.html</a><br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> . under "Registration Services Agreement", it says:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> "Both existing and newly approved customers must sign and return the current version of the RSA for each resource request."<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>
And thinking about it, I realize we had Version 11 for 3.5 years. The version I have a copy of says April 2012. So it's been a while. And Version 12 was just published this month.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> So that answers most of my questions. I'd still like clear rules for when, and when not, an updated RSA is required. The RSA is still one-sided and overly aggressive, so it's not easy to get it signed, much less signed when it's already been signed.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">David - <br clear="none"> <br clear="none"> ARIN issues number resources under the current version of the RSA,<br clear="none"> so parties requesting new resources should expect to sign the most <br clear="none"> current version. The changes from RSA version 11 to 12 are based on<br clear="none"> changes requested by the community, and I would highly recommend that<br clear="none"> everyone take the opportunity to
review them (even if not requesting any<br clear="none"> additional resources) as the terms may be more suitable to one's needs<br clear="none"> than those in your present registration services agreement. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thanks!<br clear="none">/John<br clear="none"><br clear="none">John Curran<br clear="none">President and CEO<div class="yqt0819414068" id="yqtfd40239"><br clear="none">ARIN<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">PPML<br clear="none">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br clear="none">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" href="javascript:return">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br clear="none">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect"
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