<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree with David here. I do believe there should be a requirement that any new allocations must keep the allocation x amount of time before it can transferred. Possibly 12 months+ which would thereby kill most ideas to sell for profit.</div><div><br></div><div>-Kevin<br><br><br></div><div><br>On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:05 PM, David Huberman <<a href="mailto:David.Huberman@microsoft.com">David.Huberman@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><a name="_MailEndCompose">Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></a></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Still against it because it still applies to out-region transfers where ARIN no</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> longer has access to it and CAN NOT revoke it for fraud when the attestation</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> turns out to be untrue.</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">So I get what you're saying. And you're right. You and I petition ARIN, attest<br>
that we forecast to use a /X, we're lying, and we transfer it out of the region and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">ARIN is done with it - ARIN has no control over the block transferred out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">The disagreement I have with this view is that I don't want us making policy that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">punishes the 99.9% of people who are telling the truth and just want to run their<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">network, so that we can somehow "catch" the 0.01% of the scammers. I prefer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">making policy which works well for bona fide network operators. People will always<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">lie, and I do not believe it’s ARIN’s job to catch that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Thanks!<br>
David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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