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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2015 3:55 PM, Scott Leibrand
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM,
            William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                class="">On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM, ARIN <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a>>
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                > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6<br>
                > Transfers and Multi-national Networks<br>
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              </span>OPPOSED.<br>
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            <div>Noted.  Can you read over my comments below, and then
              note why you think it's a bad idea to ignore the <span
                style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">geographic location
                where an organization is utilizing its ARIN-registered
                addresses when evaluating transfer requests?  I'm hoping
                to hear the consequentialist argument behind your
                position, independent of the appeal to authority (of the
                PDP) that you gave below.</span></div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Policy
              violates PDP section 3.2. The policy requires ARIN to
              consider<br>
              addresses used outside the region but the PDP restricts
              policy scope<br>
              to "number resources managed within the ARIN region."<br>
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            <div>I believe that is the whole point: while these number
              resources may be *used* outside the ARIN region, they are
              still *managed* within the ARIN region (by a multinational
              network with meaningful business that operates in the ARIN
              region, and is <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">currently
                using IPv4 or IPv6 addresses in the ARIN region).  So I
                don't see a conflict with the PDP here, just a
                disagreement with the principle of allowing use of
                ARIN-issued and -managed addresses outside the ARIN
                region.</span></div>
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    Makes sense to me. My management consoles rarely run in the same
    region where my VMs do.<br>
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    Matthew Kaufman<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthew@matthew.at">matthew@matthew.at</a><br>
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