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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I take it from your tone that you don’t think that keeping the ARIN Registry Database is as important than Needs Testing. If that is the case then why keep up
the charade that the Registry is important at all? Just change ARINs Mission to say that needs testing is more important than keeping the Registry accurate. This is what the current policies actually do in real life practice today anyway, as every single
Legacy block that sells outside of ARIN that ARIN refuses to register makes the Registry more and more inaccurate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve seen quite a lot of folks in this community state in this forum that keeping the Registry Database current is important to them and I share that position.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Refusing to allow folks like Mike Burns to update the Registry info on the sale of a legacy block, when he will provide reasonable Contractual evidence to ARIN
and the seller who is listed in the Registry will vouch that the sales has occurred, hurts everyone who needs the Registry to be accurate.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I know some folks in this community don’t like Legacy blocks being sold outside of ARIN but since it happens anyway, at least the Registry could be more accurate
when it does – but then there I go again trying to apply some common sense. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody@pch.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steven Ryerse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Curran; arin-ppml@arin.net List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Are you saying that your primary school education failed to cover rhetorical and logical fallacies?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you want to have a conversation, you're welcome to, but you need to make sense. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> -Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jun 4, 2015, at 21:04, Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So are you saying (since you were there) that one of the key reasons ARIN was formed was NOT to keep the Registry Database accurate?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bill Woodcock [</span><a href="mailto:woody@pch.net"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mailto:woody@pch.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steven Ryerse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Curran; </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">arin-ppml@arin.net</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jun 4, 2015, at 17:47, Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Funny, I was there, and I don't remember that being on the agenda. What I remember is balancing the need for aggregatability with the availability of independent blocks, and conservation of a scarce resourc e. The notion that people who
couldn't abide with the public interest should be catered to at everyone else's expense was not, to the best of my recollection "one of the main reasons ARIN was formed."<o:p></o:p></p>
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