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On Jun 3, 2015, at 1:54 PM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" class="">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div>It is obvious that such an outcome would be quite welcome. </div>
<div>Again, it is upon others to pursue their particular beliefs if </div>
<div>they feel legal redress is called for.</div>
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<div class="">Like when Microsoft was bribed with an offer to accept transfer of<br class="">
millions addresses under the LRSA despite the plain policy language<br class="">
requiring that it be done under the classic RSA. </div>
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<div> Same answer as on 12 June 2012 (attached).</div>
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<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
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<div>=== <<a href="http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2012-June/025344.html" class="">http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2012-June/025344.html</a>></div>
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<pre style="margin-top: 0.5em; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 1em; padding: 1em 0.5em; border-width: 1px 0px 0px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); overflow: auto; min-height: 10em; white-space: pre-wrap; line-height: 16px; font-size: 11.5px !important; width: auto !important;" class="">On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:27 PM, William Herrin wrote:
><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> So it's not the standard adhesion contract LRSA you have published on
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> the web site... because if it was the same, the text of the agreement
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> would have already been a matter of public record. It's actually a
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> custom contract written for Microsoft that ARIN decided to call an
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> LRSA.
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class="">
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> Which kind of makes the claim that Microsoft signed "the LRSA" a
</i>><i style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px;" class=""> little white lie...
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Good Afternoon Bill -
It truly is a honor to cover the same questions again and
again, but as I am here to serve this community, I guess
that it's good to be needed.
As I noted _yesterday_, we sometimes have to make changes to
the agreements as a result of being in s court proceeding -
"ARIN has made changes registration agreements as part of
legal bankruptcy proceedings, just as we make changes to
accomodate federal and state governments which require by
law their own court and venue to be specified. This is an
inevitable consequence of dealing with the legal system.
If you find yourself in a similar bankruptcy proceeding,
then we will respond accordingly but cannot commit as each
case has unique aspects."
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN</pre>
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