<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Heather Schiller <<a href="mailto:heather.skanks@gmail.com" class="">heather.skanks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Happy New Year PPML!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> As one of the shepherds of this policy, it would be very helpful to hear from the community on this proposal. Comments for or against are welcome, as are any questions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Reading 2008-5, it appears that the authors at the time expected that ISPs may relax their filter rules to allow longer than /24 routes. Given that doing so would encourage a lot more deaggregation of existing /24s, I find it unlikely that ISPs will permit longer than /24 in any appreciable number to matter.</div><div>Thus it seems that having a minimum of /28 for direct allocations is impractical, and that these would happen through assignments, as today.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I see nothing wrong with 2014-22, but am open to hearing other comments.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>…karl</div><div><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">You may want to read this report from RIPE Labs, specifically discussing the existing policy, and tests they did on routability of small prefixes. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/propagation-of-longer-than-24-ipv4-prefixes" class="">https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/propagation-of-longer-than-24-ipv4-prefixes</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks!</div><div class="">--Heather</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">ARIN</b> <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" class="">info@arin.net</a>></span><br class="">Date: Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:35 PM<br class="">Subject: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-22: Removal of Minimum in Section 4.10<br class="">To: <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 20 November 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted "ARIN-prop-214 Removal of Minimum in Section 4.10" as a Draft Policy.<br class="">
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Draft Policy ARIN-2014-22 is below and can be found at:<br class="">
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You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of Draft<br class="">
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The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance<br class="">
of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet Number Resource<br class="">
Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these principles are:<br class="">
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* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration<br class="">
* Technically Sound<br class="">
* Supported by the Community<br class="">
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Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:<br class="">
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Communications and Member Services<br class="">
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Draft Policy ARIN-2014-22<br class="">
Removal of Minimum in Section 4.10<br class="">
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Date: 25 November 2014<br class="">
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Problem Statement:<br class="">
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The current section 4.10 Dedicated IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6 Deployment creates an issue where a small new organization that requires an IPv4 allocation or assignment would potentially receive a block that today would be unroutable and therefore unusable for it intended purposes.<br class="">
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Policy statement:<br class="">
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Change<br class="">
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"This block will be subject to a minimum size allocation of /28 and a maximum size allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse allocation when possible within that /10 block."<br class="">
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To<br class="">
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"This block will be subject to an allocation of /24. ARIN should use sparse allocation when possible within that /10 block."<br class="">
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Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br class="">
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