<div dir="ltr"><div>To follow up on this, here are the relevant portions of the ARIN Staff Assessment that was just posted to PPML along with the revised version of the policy:</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">A. </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ARIN</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Staff</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> Comments</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">The impact of </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">inter</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">-</span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RIR</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">transfers</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> of ASNs on </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ARIN</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> from both an operational and development perspective are nominal today, but pose an unknown (but at least moderate) impact over the medium-term due to potentially significant impacts for additional requirements and/or specifications necessary for RPKI support of </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">inter</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">-</span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RIR</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ASN</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">transfers</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">.</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"></span></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">3. Resource Impact</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">This policy would have minimal to moderate resource impact from an implementation aspect. It is estimated that implementation would occur within 3 - 9 months after ratification by the </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">ARIN</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Board of Trustees. The following would be needed in order to implement:</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Future impact from RPKI implementation could involve either some kind of </span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RIR</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><->IANA<-></span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">RIR </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">coordination system or ERX for ASNs<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Updated guidelines and internal procedures<br></span><span class="" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Staff</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"> training</span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>-Scott </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial">I support further discussion of the RPKI issue.
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<div><font face="Arial">I don't think it will be difficult to overcome the
issues raised by Mr. Huston, but since demand for Inter-RIR ASN transfers is
low, there is little harm in waiting to get it right.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">I know there were some procedural wrinkles involved
in early Inter-RIR address transfers and we may be able to anticipate and work
around these kinds of things through further discussion.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="scottleibrand@gmail.com" href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank">Scott
Leibrand</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="michael@linuxmagic.com" href="mailto:michael@linuxmagic.com" target="_blank">Michael Peddemors</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="arin-ppml@arin.net" href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">ARIN-PPML List</a> </div>
</div><div><div class="h5"><div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:54
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council
Meeting Results - July 2014</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Scott Leibrand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Michael Peddemors
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@linuxmagic.com" target="_blank">michael@linuxmagic.com</a>></span> wrote:</div></div>
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<div><br><span style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:12px">The AC
is continuing to work on the following:</span><br style="FONT-FAMILY:arial,sans-serif;FONT-SIZE:12px">
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote"> Draft Policy ARIN-2014-15: Allow
Inter-RIR ASN Transfers<br></blockquote></div>
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<div><br></div>+1, all logical, can't really see how that can be
abused.</div></blockquote>
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<div>The main concern now is the impact of Inter-RIR ASN Transfers on the
RPKI system. Geoff brought up the issue at the NANOG PPC in
Bellevue,</div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>To respond to a private query, Geoff's comments can be reviewed at <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog61/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_14" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog61/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_14</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>-Scott</div>
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<div>and the subsequent staff assessment highlighted the fact that ARIN
would need to do additional RPKI development to make Inter-RIR ASN transfers
work with RPKI. Therefore, most of the AC felt (and convinced me) that we
shouldn't recommend ARIN-2014-15 for adoption after Baltimore, but rather
should leave it as a Draft Policy and discuss the RPKI issues
there.</div><span><font color="#888888">
<div><br></div>
<div>-Scott</div>
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