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reason I though it was supposed to be around now?<br>
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On 7/1/2014 1:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM,
Martin Hannigan <span dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Scott, </div>
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<div>Asking me to do the work the AC is supposed to do
is like asking a nun to certify their virginity. </div>
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<div>In the interests of supporting our community, I
volunteer to ...<br>
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oh, wait. Wrong question.<br>
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I mean "I support this proposal". <br>
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<div>Matt<br>
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<div>I made my point and I feel zero need to defend what
is completely obvious and on the record. </div>
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<div>As I explained to our "CEO and President", feel
free to demonstrate otherwise. </div>
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<div>Best, </div>
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<div>Martin </div>
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On Jun 30, 2014, at 19:38, Scott Leibrand <<a
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<div>Martin,</div>
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<div>I felt the objections raised at previous
meetings were addressed, not ignored. Can you
clarify how you feel that this policy would
make it harder for a recipient to qualify to
receive space via transfer? The intent here is
to allow organizations to create new discrete
networks and qualify for space from them. If
you think it will do the opposite, it's worth
detailing how and why. </div>
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<div>It's also worth noting that, by documenting
the basic requirements for such networks, it
also reduces ARIN staff's discretion and
provides additional policy certainty. <br>
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<div>Scott</div>
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On Jun 30, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Martin Hannigan
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<div>Objection, with the majority of the
community from the previous ARIN meeting,
recent NANOG PPC and other comments and
fora discussion. </div>
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<div>But don't let that stop the ARIN AC
from moving it forward in its obsession
with controlling v4 markets. </div>
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<div>Best, </div>
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<div>-M< </div>
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On Jun 30, 2014, at 17:34, CJ Aronson <<a
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<div>Does anyone have comments on this
recommended draft policy? </div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>----Cathy</div>
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:16 PM,
ARIN <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:info@arin.net"
target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>></span>
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The ARIN Advisory Council (AC)
met on 19 June 2014 and decided
to<br>
send the following to last call:<br>
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Recommended Draft Policy
ARIN-2013-8: Subsequent
Allocations for New Multiple
Discrete Networks<br>
<br>
Feedback is encouraged during
the last call period. All
comments should<br>
be provided to the Public Policy
Mailing List. This last call
will<br>
expire on 8 July 2014. After
last call the AC will conduct
their<br>
last call review.<br>
<br>
The draft policy text is below
and available at:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/"
target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/</a><br>
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The ARIN Policy Development
Process is available at:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html"
target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Communications and Member
Services<br>
American Registry for Internet
Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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<br>
Recommended Draft Policy
ARIN-2013-8<br>
Subsequent Allocations for New
Multiple Discrete Networks<br>
<br>
Date: 16 May 2014<br>
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AC's assessment of conformance
with the Principles of Internet
Number Resource Policy:<br>
<br>
This proposal enables fair and
impartial number resource
administration by documenting
how to get a new block for a new
discrete network. Previous
versions of the policy did have
this information and over time
it has been removed.<br>
<br>
This proposal is technically
sound. There is a need for
discrete networks and an
organization should have a
policy that would allow it to
create a new discrete network.<br>
<br>
This proposal is supported by
the community. There has been
some concern about the criterial
that will be used and this
version has been updated with
the current thinking on the
criteria.<br>
<br>
Policy Statement:<br>
<br>
IPv4:<br>
Add the following statement to
section 4.5.4.<br>
Upon verification that the
organization has shown evidence
of deployment of the new
discrete network site, the new
network(s) shall be allocated
the minimum allocation size
under section 4.2.1.5 unless the
organization can demonstrate
additional need using the
immediate need criteria
(4.2.1.6).<br>
<br>
IPv6:<br>
Add an additional reference to
section 6.11.5.b such that it
references both the initial
allocation and subsequent
allocation sections of the IPv6
LIR policy.<br>
"Each network will be judged
against the existing utilization
criteria specified in 6.5.2 and
6.5.3 as if it were a separate
organization..."<br>
<br>
Comments:<br>
a. Timetable for implementation:
immediate<br>
b. This policy is being proposed
based upon the Policy
Implementation & Experience
Report from ARIN 32.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf"
target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_32/PDF/thursday/nobile-policy.pdf</a><br>
c: Older versions of the MDN
policy did contain new network
criteria. This criteria appears
to have been dropped during
subsequent rewrites of the MDN
policy. "The organization must
not allocate a CIDR block larger
than the current minimum
assignment size of the RIR
(currently /20 for ARIN) to a
new network." (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf"
target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/archive/nrpm_20041015.pdf</a>)<br>
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