<div dir="ltr">Martin,<div><br></div><div>Here is the link to the transcript from NANOG 60 PPC (the one before last)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog60/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_3">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog60/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_3</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Here you said your main objection was the policy requiring a contract and we took that away. </div><div><br></div><div>At the PPC in Washington (NANOG 61) there wasn't one single comment positive or negative from the audience. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I fail to see from the transcript from NANOG 60 what your objections are at this time since we changed the text and removed what you said concerned you. I went back and reread it to make sure I remembered exactly what you had said. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Although I have tried for many years I am unable to read minds. Please tell us what is a problem at this point. If anyone else can tell us that would be great too. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div>
<div>----Cathy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Martin Hannigan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div>Scott,<div><br><div>There have been more objections than mine all along the route. We pay ARIN millions in fees. We simply ask that ARIN do what we believe is best. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Assuming that this is simply about my opinion demonstrates ARINs usual arrogance. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best, </div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-M< </div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><div><br>On Monday, June 30, 2014, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I was in the room as well. I heard your objections in Chicago (<a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_33/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_11" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_33/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_11</a>) "to the contract issue". Since then, ARIN-2013-8 has been revised to address your concern, and in fact no longer requires any contracts for connectivity, but simply "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">evidence of deployment of the new discrete network site".</span><div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Since that revision, </span>ARIN-2013-8 was also discussed at the ARIN PPC and NANOG 61 in Bellevue. I don't recall or see (<a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog61/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_3" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog61/ppc_transcript.html#anchor_3</a>) that you (or anyone else) raised any concerns at that meeting.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe the main objection you expressed at the ARIN 33 meeting has been addressed. If you have another objection, or you feel it hasn't been addressed, please provide some additional details. Otherwise, this will be my last message on this topic.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-Scott</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Martin Hannigan <span dir="ltr"><<a>hannigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I'm clear. I was in the room. My perspective is that they didn't listen.<br>
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They (you) can feel free to demonstrate to us that they did.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
-M<<br>
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> On Jun 30, 2014, at 20:17, John Curran <<a>jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On Jun 30, 2014, at 7:59 PM, "Martin Hannigan" <<a>hannigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Asking me to do the work the AC ...<br>
><br>
> To be clear, the draft policy was revised based on the<br>
> input received and the AC is doing -_their_ job by asking<br>
> if there remains any objections.<br>
><br>
> The job of those in the community is to express any concerns<br>
> that they still have with regards to the recommended draft policy.<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
> /John<br>
><br>
> John Curran<br>
> President and CEO<br>
> ARIN<br>
><br>
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