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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Martin,<br>
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You seem very negative about this, disagreeing for the sake of
disagreeing is counter productive. Perhaps you could explain your
concerns giving actual reasons, potential fallout, issues, etc in
the hopes of making it better....<br>
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Derek Calanchini<br>
Owner<br>
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Phone: 916-852-2890<br>
Fax: 916-852-2899<br>
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"Adopt the metric system!"<br>
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On 4/29/2014 5:15 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:<br>
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Owens change is simple and fast. Meddling beyond that is asking
for trouble. It's a no op. Leave it alone.
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<div>Bring that to the PPC at NANOG and this is dead. </div>
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On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Jimmy Hess <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mysidia@gmail.com">mysidia@gmail.com</a>>
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Owen DeLong <<a
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onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'owen@delong.com')">owen@delong.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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I support the proposed change as written.<br>
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In addition, since Multihomed ISPs no longer have a
different minimum<br>
allocation, I suggest removing the distinction between
Multihomed<br>
and non-Multihomed ISPs:<br>
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o 4.2.1.5 Delete the sentence that says "For
multihomed ISPs...."<br>
Remove multi-homed distinction and requirements for
initial<br>
allocations to ISPs.<br>
o Delete section 4.2.2.1 Standard or non-multihomed
and subsections.<br>
<br>
o Rename section 4.2.2.2 to remove references to
Multihomed<br>
<br>
Prepend "When requesting a /24, demonstrate the
efficient<br>
utilization of a minimum contiguous or non-contiguous /27
(two /28s)<br>
from an upstream."<br>
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[Regardless if multihomed or not]<br>
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> Template: ARIN-POLICY-PROPOSAL-TEMPLATE-3.0<br>
><br>
> 1. Policy Proposal Name: Reduce all Minimum
Allocation/Assignment units to<br>
> /24<br>
> 2. Proposal Originator<br>
> a. name: Owen DeLong<br>
> b. email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml',
'owen@delong.com')">owen@delong.com</a><br>
> c. telephone: 408-890-7992<br>
> d. organization: Hurricane Electric<br>
> 3. Date: 29 April, 2014<br>
> 4. Problem Statement:<br>
><br>
> As we approach runout, more and more end users and
smaller ISPs will be<br>
> unable to obtain space from their upstreams and will be
seeking space from<br>
> ARIN. In order to meet these needs to the extent
possible and to make policy<br>
> more fair to a broader range of the ARIN constituency,
we should reduce the<br>
> minimum assignment and allocation units to /24 across
the board.<br>
><br>
> 5. Policy statement:<br>
><br>
> Change the minimum allocation and assignment unit for
all IPv4 single and<br>
> multi homed instances to /20. This would include:<br>
><br>
><br>
> 4.2.1.5 Change all occurrences of /20 and /22 to /24<br>
><br>
> 4.2.2.1.1 Change all occurrences of /20 to /24, and
change 16 /24s to 1 /24.<br>
> Remove the example about 12 /24s.<br>
><br>
> 4.3.2.1 Change both occurrences of /20 to /24<br>
><br>
> 4.9 Change /22 to /24<br>
><br>
> 4.9.1 Change all instances of /22 to /24. Remove the
reference to 4 /24s.<br>
><br>
><br>
> 6. Comments:<br>
> a. Timetable for implementation: Immediate, possibly
through board action.<br>
> b. Anything else<br>
><br>
> END OF TEMPLATE<br>
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><br>
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