<div dir="ltr">All these arguments are most interesting, but of course nothing is certain until the LAST judge says so...I for one would be/have been anxious to see these principles tried in court. If I were a betting man, I would believe that whatever argument seemed to establish the greatest order and stability for the Internet as a whole would win out...in the end. But then again, almost everyone has more legal perspective and experience than I do.....<div>
<br></div><div>bd</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:31 AM, William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:33 AM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Apr 8, 2014, at 6:21 AM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> .... or, at the absolute most, a reading of RFC 2050 with all ambiguity construed in the registrants' most favorable light.<br>
><br>
> Accepting the point above for sake of argument, here's the relevant<br>
> section of RFC 2050 -<br>
><br>
> " 7. The transfer of IP addresses from one party to another must be<br>
> approved by the regional registries. The party trying to obtain<br>
> the IP address must meet the same criteria as if they were<br>
> requesting an IP address directly from the IR."<br>
><br>
> I do not see a lot of ambiguity here with respect to requiring those<br>
> receiving addresses to meet the same criteria as those being issued<br>
> address space, nor with respect to the requirement that the RIRs must<br>
> approve the transfer. Please elucidate and construe is you see fit.<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi John,<br>
<br>
Plenty of ambiguity. Which criteria must be met for the legacy<br>
registration? The current RIR criteria? The criteria as practiced by<br>
InterNIC when ARIN made its promise? The criteria as practiced by<br>
InterNIC when the legacy registration was made? Some criteria laid out<br>
directly in RFC2050? If you accept RFC 2050 as controlling, one of the<br>
RIRs must approve the transfer. Not necessarily ARIN. But in the<br>
context of ARIN's promise regarding legacy registrations, it's not<br>
obvious which criteria ARIN is expected to apply when evaluating the<br>
request. And at least some of the candidates boil down to: are you<br>
really you? Ok. Transfer approved.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Bill Herrin<br>
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