<div dir="ltr">Jay,<div><br></div><div>I appreciate that you have a view to express that is opposed to the Draft Policy. I understand that you may even be upset about it and that you believe that the motivation is contrary to the community's interest. But I think that your personalized attack on the author is unwarranted and outside both the spirit of and stated Acceptable Use Policy for the PPML.</div>
<div><br></div><div>You may find the specific rules at <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html">https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Bill Darte</div>
<div>AC Shepherd</div><div>ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Jay Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaymartin926@gmail.com" target="_blank">jaymartin926@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica">Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 21:17:58 +0000</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,106,227)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">From: David Huberman <<a href="mailto:David.Huberman@microsoft.com" target="_blank">David.Huberman@microsoft.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,106,227)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">To: Bill Darte <<a href="mailto:billdarte@gmail.com" target="_blank">billdarte@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>"</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,106,227)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>>, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica">Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Draft Policy 2014-2 Improved 8.4</p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica">As the author of this proposal, and having encountered the real-world consequences of existing 8.4 anti-flip language, I support #3 as the cleanest, simplest approach that best promotes Whois accuracy.</p>
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<b>Can you specify what have you encountered in the real world ? which finally “inspire” you to write this proposal. I think your company is so selfish and what your cared is your own company. Keep buying ip and </b><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>pla</b></span><b>nning to transfer them into Asia Pacific region; meanwhile drain out of the IPs from the remained Arin pool. </b></p>
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<p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Helvetica">ARIN is a registry, not a regulator. Let's write policy that promotes accuracy in Whois, please.</p>
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<b>As a member of the community, i consider that you are a hypocrite. Your so-call caring about ARIN accuracy in whois is just an excuse for you to protect your company’s benefit. </b></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times;min-height:18px">
<b></b><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times"><b>Let me expose what your intention behind this proposal, i think the community deserve the right to see your true face. </b></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times">
<b>What you want to do is to help your own company to easily transfer either the purchased ip or the old allocated ip from Arin into the Asia Pacific region; meanwhile your company is able to keep squeezing and draining the remained free pool of Arin. </b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times;min-height:18px"><b></b><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times"><b>Your support of #3 will make it easy for your company to transfer ip into Asia Pacific, which will create a “the needs of Arin IP badly” image in the local ARIN region. Your purchased /13 from that bankruptcy is the justification of your company’s needs in Arin region. Now you want a policy to help your company to transfer the “old” and “ purchase” ip to Asia Pacific( you must be a good liar at making your justification to be approved by Arin), which will not affect your continuing application of big chunk block from Arin. </b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times;min-height:18px"><b></b><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times"><b>The system has already been established to take care of giant baby like your company and leave the smaller organisations without chance to have their deserved ip and suffer.</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times;min-height:18px"><b></b><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times"><b>Wake up the community. Do you want this hypocrite to dry up the free pool?</b></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times"><b>I am against this proposal, it will only open the doors for some players to drain up the free pool of ARIN quickly. </b></p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:Times;min-height:18px">
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