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My issue with this proposal is that it might create an expectation
that operators will start routing that space. I just see a s**t
storm when Customer A gets a /29 and no one can reach it. I see it,
in the long term, generating a lot of problems.<br>
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Aaron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2014 3:06 PM, Owen DeLong
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<div>On Mar 20, 2014, at 13:01 , Heather Schiller <<a
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<div>Aside from the general support/against.. some things to
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Do you concur with or have any comment on the problem
statement? </div>
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I do not concur with the problem statement.</div>
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<div>If you support the problem statement, do you support
removing section 8.2 as the correct path for remediating
this conflict? Do you have other suggestions for how to
handle this?</div>
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No.</div>
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<div>If you are opposed, what concerns do you have about
implementing this policy? </div>
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I have previously stated my concerns. IMHO, this is yet another
attempt to bypass the needs-basis and seeks to solve a problem
which does not, in fact, exist.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, ARIN <span dir="ltr"><<a
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target="_blank">info@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 20 February 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC)
accepted<br>
"ARIN-prop-199 Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2
Utilization Requirements" as a Draft Policy.<br>
<br>
Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9 is below and can be found at:<br>
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href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_9.html"
target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_9.html</a><br>
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You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your
concerns of Draft<br>
Policy 2014-9 on the Public Policy Mailing List.<br>
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The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess
the conformance<br>
of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet
Number Resource<br>
Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these
principles are:<br>
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* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource
Administration<br>
* Technically Sound<br>
* Supported by the Community<br>
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The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found
at:<br>
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target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html</a><br>
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Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be
found at:<br>
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Communications and Member Services<br>
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)<br>
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Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9<br>
Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization
Requirements<br>
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Date: 4 March 2014<br>
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Problem Statement:<br>
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8.2 transfer policy has utilization requirements at the
time of the review of the transfer request.<br>
<br>
The RSA section 6 expressly forbids ARIN from
de-registering blocks (in whole or in part) due to
under-utilization or no-justification during transfer
requests.<br>
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This is a direct conflict.<br>
<br>
Return and aggregate are not done in collaboration; they
are coerced by policy without the willing consent of the
transfer parties.<br>
<br>
We should remove all utilization references from 8.2
language to ensure the policy is compliant with the RSA.<br>
<br>
Policy statement:<br>
<br>
Remove from 8.2:<br>
"In the event that number resources of the combined
organizations are no longer justified under ARIN policy
at the time ARIN becomes aware of the transaction,
through a transfer request or otherwise, ARIN will work
with the resource holder(s) to return, aggregate,
transfer, or reclaim resources as needed to restore
compliance via the processes outlined in current ARIN
policy."<br>
<br>
Comments:<br>
a.Timetable for implementation: Immediate<br>
b.Anything else:<br>
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