<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Support. I wrote what appears to be "the offending language" in order to clean up vague, unclear language already memorialized in the existing policy. <br><br>To wit:<br></div><br>"ISPs and other organizations
receiving these micro-allocations will be charged under the ISP fee
schedule, while end-users will be charged under the fee schedule for
end-users. This policy does not preclude exchange point operators from
requesting address space under other policies."<br><br></div><div>I support removal of this and the proposed language related to defining the fee structure. The rest of the proposal is not about abuse, it's about conservation and helping infrastructure to grow _and_ succeed in the ARIN region. A distinction does not need to be made between one area of the region or another. I am in support of the change from two to three, or more. </div>
<div><br><br></div><div>Best,<br><br></div><div>-M<<br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM, John Springer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:springer@inlandnet.com" target="_blank">springer@inlandnet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Opposed as written.<br>
<br>
Agree with the following reasoning. I am OK with the 2 -> 3 change.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
John Springer</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2014, Heather Schiller wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I oppose the policy as written.<br>
I don't have an opinion on the 2 vs 3, though I see it as such a small change and given the total number of CI IX assignments (66 over<br>
how many years?) it won't significantly change anything. <br>
<br>
I am opposed to the policy because of this line " IXP's formed as non profits will be considered end user organizations. All others will<br>
be considered ISPs."<br>
<br>
This statement will impact the overwhelming majority of Critical Infrastructure assignment holders, the majority of which are not IX's.<br>
The goal of attempting preservation should be done by how the allocation is justified, not how much the entity is billed. 111 of the<br>
CI allocations are not to IX's. Of the 66 IX allocations it is nearly split between end users and ISP's. <br>
<br>
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Brandon Ross <<a href="mailto:bross@pobox.com" target="_blank">bross@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br>
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Owen DeLong wrote:<br>
<br>
I oppose the change. Anyone inclined to abuse a two participant standard can easily create or obtain a 3rd<br>
participant for said purpose. This is literally a case of change for the sake of change. No, a 3 participant<br>
minimum is not an unreasonable standard. However, since it does have some negative impact and is utterly<br>
unlikely to be at all effective in deterring abuse, I see no benefit to the change.<br>
<br>
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I agree with Owen on all points and oppose the policy change. Most importantly, this policy change significantly raises the bar<br>
for a legitimate IXP to get started while doing nothing effective to prevent what is, effectively, a tiny amount of potential<br>
abuse.<br>
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