<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">There are places that have predictable elections. I do not think that is what we want.<div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div style=""><div>On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I stand corrected on the Board of Trustees. We certainly agree but of course one never knows what the results of an election might be. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Steven Ryerse<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">President<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA 30338<o:p></o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a> [<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Stephen Sprunk<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, January 23, 2014 1:33 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] NRPM Policies 4.6 and 4.7 Suspended by ARIN Board<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On 23-Jan-14 09:59, Steven Ryerse wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I would like to take this opportunity to point out that this is a glaring example of where the ARIN Board of Directors is acting to make a policy change without consulting this community before taking action concerning the policy(s). </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>Nit: Board of Trustees, not Directors.<br><br>The Board members are part of the community, and one of their responsibilities is to take action on behalf of the community when there is an urgent problem--and then hand it back to the rest of us for a more complete response as soon as circumstances permit. We entrust them with rather expansive authority because it's necessary to fulfill that responsibility.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I would also point out that this action by the ARIN Board pretty much deflates the argument that ARIN’s role is only to implement and facilitate community-based Internet self-governance that I’ve seen argued in this forum and in the press by John Curran and others. It is to the ARIN Board & Management’s credit that they do solicit this community’s input on most policy changes. However, I think it is important that this community fully understand that they have chosen to solicit input on policy decisions but are not required to follow it. </span><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>ARIN Staff is obligated to follow whatever policies the ARIN Board adopts, and Staff's role in the policy-making process is limited to advice and facilitation.<br><br>You are correct that the ARIN Board isn't obligated to listen to input; if they had a record of abusing their discretion, though, it would be our responsibility to replace them.<br><br>S<br><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein<br>CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the<br>K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking<o:p></o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.</div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>