<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:56 AM, John Curran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> The word you are looking for there, John, is "has become". We've already seen<br>
> multiple reports from members of the community that they are deadlocked on this<br>
> issue because their upstream will not give them more space and they don't have<br>
> enough space from their upstream to qualify through ARIN.<br>
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</div>I have heard similar concerns expressed anecdotally.<br>
<div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I hosted the lunch topic table at the last ARIN meeting that addressed problems faced by small ISPs. Everyone at this topic table faced the issue we are discussing. They can't get blocks from their upstream and they can't justify blocks from ARIN. Hopefully some of those folks will speak up here too. </div>
<div><br></div><div>----Cathy</div>
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