<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'd like to see some actual documented issues with this. Almost everyone I know is sitting on large amounts of smaller blocks they can easily allocate to people. It's the larger (/21 or greater) blocks which are becoming scarce.<div><br><div><div>On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">During the discussion in Phoenix of Draft Policy 2013-7 (which I've since updated and will be sending back out to PPML shortly), and in other discussions before and since, it has become apparent that small networks may not qualify for transfers and be unable to get space from their upstreams after RIR and ISP IPv4 free pools run out.<div>
<br></div><div>In order to address this issue, a few different ideas have come up, so I wanted to bring some of them up to the community for discussion and see which possible solutions might have community support.</div><div>
<br></div><div>Here are a couple of the ideas that've come up so far:</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>1) For smaller allocations than ARIN’s minimum, orgs “should request space from their upstream provider _<u>or another LIR</u>_” (add underlined text to <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four215">NRPM 4.2.1.5</a>).</div>
<div><br></div><div>This would clarify that it's fine for organizations to get space reassigned to them by any other LIR if their upstream ISPs are no longer able to provide them the space they need.</div><div><br></div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Lower the minimum allocation sizes to /22 single-homed and /24 multihomed for both ISPs and end-users. This would mean updating <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four22">NRPM 4.2.2</a> and <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four32">4.3.2</a> (and would allow removal of <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four9">NRPM 4.9</a> as redundant.)</div>
</div></div><div><br></div><div>Before the implementation of CIDR, many /24 allocations were made to organizations that are no longer using them. <a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight3">Current ARIN transfer policy </a>states that the minimum transfer size is a /24, but it's not clear in policy whether an single-homed organization that needs a small block (/24 to /21) would actually qualify to receive such a block via transfer. (Perhaps staff input here would be useful.) In any event, reducing the minimum allocation sizes would allow organizations of all types to receive the size of address block they actually need, either via transfer or from ARIN's inventory of returned space.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Thoughts? Do you support either or both of these ideas? Would one or both of them be worth submitting as a policy proposal?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Scott</div></div>
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