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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jimmy Hess<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Frank Bulk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Curran; arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Frank Bulk <<a href="mailto:frnkblk@iname.com" target="_blank">frnkblk@iname.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John, What if Acme Hosting, Inc., located in the Silicon Valley, found a niche<br>
offering virtualized servers for Asian customers who want to have their<br>
Internet-based services hosted more closely to the North American market.<br>
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Acme Hosting and their infrastructure are clearly in the U.S., but their<br>
customers are not in the ARIN region.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The end user might physically reside in Asia; however, if their virtual server is being hosted physically in the ARIN region, and the hosting company's offices are in the American region,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">THEN the user is essentially "coming into the ARIN region" to do business.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would make the argument, that these are Asia-based people Doing business in the US,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">by virtually coming and buying product from a US-based company; they might not be taking a plane trip into the US to setup the account, but they are calling a US phone number, US-based e-mail address, or visiting a US-based website.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So while their nationality is Asian, they may in fact be "US customers"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If the customer is doing business in the ARIN region; then ARIN should not be examining their nationality too deeply, as long as their full verifiable details are gathered and available for dissemination by ARIN's auditors.<o:p></o:p></p>
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