<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br><br></div><div>On Sep 25, 2013, at 18:04, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:15 PM, William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What permits, licenses or other government paperwork would a German</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>company need to own a few routers in Ashburn, buy telco DSL lines on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>behalf of lata 236 customers and provide Internet access there?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's possible that they don't need anything, in which case, they are legally</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>operating there without needing any licenses or permits.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>As a Virginian, I'll help you out: in at least one version of that</span><br><span>scenario, they in fact don't need anything.</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Bill, I'm no lawyer but the following seems to contradict your statement, at least in my plain English reading.</div><div><br></div><a href="http://www.scc.virginia.gov/clk/befaq/forinva.aspx#a1">http://www.scc.virginia.gov/clk/befaq/forinva.aspx#a1</a><div><br></div><div>Other than googling and seeing what the Internet says, we are out of my element, and I'll wait for legal advice from counsel.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>(Proposal Draft: Organizations ... must provide proof that they [are] legally</span><br><span>operating within the ARIN service region)</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ARIN is not qualified to assess [whether an organization is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>operating legally within the region] and would have a very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>difficult time doing so.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't see that as a serious issue.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>The cognitive dissonance has blown my mind.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards,</span><br><span>Bill Herrin</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>William D. Herrin ................ <a href="mailto:herrin@dirtside.com">herrin@dirtside.com</a> <a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a></span><br><span>3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <<a href="http://bill.herrin.us/">http://bill.herrin.us/</a>></span><br><span>Falls Church, VA 22042-3004</span><br></div></blockquote><br><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);">-- </span><div>===============================================</div><div>David Farmer Email:farmer@<a href="http://umn.edu">umn.edu</a></div><div>Networking & Telecommunication Services</div><div>Office of Information Technology</div><div>University of Minnesota </div><div>2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815</div><div>Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952</div><div>===============================================</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></body></html>