<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:28 PM, William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote><div class="gmail_extra">> <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Jason's closed-door partisan draft.</span><br><br>I appreciate this is a difficult topic. </div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Many of us are passionate that ARIN should do the right thing.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>This is complicated by feeling like IPs are a community resource,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style>and weighing the best interest of the community, </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>and our particular company (or type of organization).</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
Bearing that in mind, I tried to narrow the scope and change,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>in an effort to to make this as least controversial as possible.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
I tried to keep this draft as simply recording the current state of things,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>and not modify current ARIN policy or practices.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
I tired to keep the text as much like the original RFC 2050 text, </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>what is in the PDP, and other parts of the NRPM, </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>and tried to deviate from the text only when more modern language</div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style>clarified our current thinking about the principles of stewardship in</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>RFC 2050 and reflected our current ARIN polices and practices.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>When it was clear that some current practices were in conflict with the </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>draft text, in fact the original RFC 2050 text, I suggested that my intention</div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style>was not to move the needle, that the practice should in this case stand,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>(and likely stand in all cases) and we need to deal with these issues </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>
once the staff assessment comes out.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Rather than talk about what the principles are, and the best way to </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>re-document them before RFC 2050 is deprecated, we have allowed </div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style>the discussion to turn to an even more complicated topic, what the </div><div class="gmail_extra" style>principles SHOULD be.</div><div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div>For the record, most of "my" "closed-door partisan draft" was written by<div>
Kim Hubbard, Mark Kosters, David Conrad, Daniel Karrenberg, and<br>Jon Postel.<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">___Jason</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:28 PM, William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Chris Grundemann <<a href="mailto:cgrundemann@gmail.com">cgrundemann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> First of all this is not a vote, and while I appreciate you're<br>
> attempts to help (I assume), they come across as a manipulative<br>
> attempt at controlling the conversation when the counts are not<br>
> accurate and are (repeatedly) preemptive.<br>
<br>
</div>Chris,<br>
<br>
I am in no way a neutral party here. Neither, my good fellow, are you.<br>
You have used your office to attempt to frame debate and feedback<br>
closely around Jason's closed-door partisan draft. That manipulation<br>
exceeds any I could hope to achieve from outside.<br>
<br>
I am emphatically and unapologetically attempting to move the<br>
conversation away from a set of principle statements which appears to<br>
me to be opposed by the bulk of the participants of this forum. If you<br>
would have yourself respected as a neutral arbiter, roll back and<br>
restart where you should have: ask this community to propose text for<br>
core principles, deconstruct it to separable components and then seek<br>
your yes/nos on all that had more than token interest.<br>
<br>
Till then: pot, kettle, black.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Regards,<br>
Bill Herrin<br>
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