<br clear="all"><font>Maybe that was utopian thinking on my part. It would be nice to disregard what happens with IPv4 space but that seems to invite some sort of chaos and the last thing needed is more chaos...<br><br>Intelligent allocation of the remaining IPv4 space is important in my opinion.<br>
<br>From Dave Farmer's email earlier:<br>"</font><font>I think the more important issue is an appropriate criteria on the
lower-end and for new enterants, the current slow-start for IPv4 isn't
going to work, post-ARIN free pool. Yes, I know eliminating need
alltogether eliminates that problem, but I'm not sure I can get myself
all the way there. I'd like to see some minimal technical criteria that
entitles someone to be able to buy up to between a /16 and a /12 and
more than just that they have the money to do so. Maybe its just as
simple as demonstrating efficient use of at least a /24. If you can't
do that then you can only buy a /24, then you utilize it and you qualify
for bigger blocks. "<br><br>Regardless of whether the size blocks discussed is agreeable or not, I do agree wth the part about the need for "...</font><font><font>minimal technical criteria that
entitles someone to be able to buy up to between a /16 and a /12 and
more than just that they have the money to do so."<br><br>(Of course I support the idea that we all move to IPv6!) :)<br><br></font></font><div>--<br>Brian</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com" target="_blank">mike@nationwideinc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Can I take your plus ones to indicate support of the cap even in the face
of the shell company issue?</div>
<div>(As well as support of the idea that we should all move to IPv6.)</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="bjones@vt.edu" href="mailto:bjones@vt.edu" target="_blank">Brian Jones</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:03 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARIN
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Martin Hannigan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM, cb.list6 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cb.list6@gmail.com" target="_blank">cb.list6@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 11, 2013 7:15 PM, "Matthew Kaufman" <<a href="mailto:matthew@matthew.at" target="_blank">matthew@matthew.at</a>>
wrote:<br>><br>> When will we start caring about IPv6 and start
ignoring IPv4??? Who cares if people set up shells to acquire v4 space from
others? Let 'em, and get v6 deployed already.<br>></p></div>
<p dir="ltr">+1</p><span><font color="#888888">
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<div><br>+1<br><br></div>
<div>Best,<br><br></div>
<div>-M<br><br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br><br>+1<br><br>--<br>Brian<br><br> </div>
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