<div dir="ltr"><div><div><table class="" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr class=""><td class=""><table class="" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><div class=""><span name="William Herrin" class="">William Herrin</span> <span class=""><a target="_blank" href="http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=1311182" class="">via</a> <a href="http://arin.net">arin.net</a> </span></div>
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</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann <<a href="mailto:cgrundemann@gmail.com">cgrundemann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need<br>
> (Conservation/Sustainability)?<br>
<br>
No. I support the practice but not the principle. Use of the concept<br>
of justified need should be pragmatic not dogmatic. Where another<br>
practice can be shown to be more effective at achieving<br>
sustainability, no guiding principles should dissuade us from using<br>
it.<br><br></div>Bill....We've seen the effectiveness with ARIN's practice since '97, but what other practice do you advocate that has demonstrable success with IP addresses? <br><br></div>bd<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:47 AM, William Herrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann <<a href="mailto:cgrundemann@gmail.com">cgrundemann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need<br>
> (Conservation/Sustainability)?<br>
<br>
No. I support the practice but not the principle. Use of the concept<br>
of justified need should be pragmatic not dogmatic. Where another<br>
practice can be shown to be more effective at achieving<br>
sustainability, no guiding principles should dissuade us from using<br>
it.<br>
<br>
<br>
> 2) Do you support the principle of hierarchical aggregation (Routability)?<br>
<br>
No. I support facilitating scalable routing as a principle. Depending<br>
on the technology of the day and the intended use of the addresses,<br>
this might or might not include aggregation of any sort, let alone<br>
hierarchical aggregation.<br>
<br>
<br>
> 3) Do you support the principle of uniqueness (Registration)?<br>
<br>
Yes.<br>
<br>
<br>
> 4) Do you support the goal of balancing these principles with each<br>
> other under the overarching principle of Stewardship?<br>
<br>
No. As offered, the notion of stewardship is fuzzy bordering<br>
incoherent. It justifies anything and nothing. If it's desirable to<br>
offer guidance as to how to break a tie when principles conflict then<br>
let's do just that instead.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Bill Herrin<br>
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