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<div>On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:28 PM, Steven Ryerse <<a href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com">SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</a>></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">So then the logical question that I would ask is: As a matter of current policy and practice does Arin first require an organization that requests say a /17 to request
one first from a larger say /12 upstream before Arin will allocate the block, or maybe a /14 from an upstream /8, or /whatever from a larger upstream /whatever? What if the larger upstream refuses the smaller organization the requested size block? Does Arin
require larger allocation holders to honor smaller allocation requests as a condition of their allocation? What about an organization who runs BGP and needs an independent block but their upstream doesn’t want to permanently give them what they consider a
large portion of their own assigned block because it is somewhat difficult for them to get more resources from Arin? <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">And most importantly if this is current policy, does Arin actually enforce it every time for every organization no matter what their size or the size of their request?
If not then fair is fair and everyone should be treated equally albeit adjusted for their size and the size of their request. </span></div>
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<div>Steven - </div>
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<div> There is an initial allocation policy (which ISPs must meet to receive their first</div>
<div> allocation from ARIN), and then there is additional ISP allocation policy applies </div>
<div> to all future requests. This is regardless of the size of the request or size of the </div>
<div> organization requesting.</div>
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<div>FYI,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
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<div>ARIN</div>
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