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Chu, Yi [NTK] wrote:
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<div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Good story
aside, some people may not appreciate the fact that any anonymous
person on earth can track them down, especially the pizza guy had no
business in the network.<br>
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I take this story as indication that the current system is lacking
concern for privacy.<br>
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I don't think the story has any privacy implications whatsoever? It
was just a good story about how resourceful some people can be when
they need to contact someone who is otherwise incommunicado! (and I
suspect the pizza guy was somehow compensated for his "delivery"?)<br>
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If a person or entity has resources on the [public] Internet, and those
resources are misbehaving in one way or another, why shouldn't "any
anonymous person on earth" be able to track down the owner or
operator/ISP of those resources to make sure they're aware of the bad
behavior?? Whether people "appreciate" that level of responsibility or
not, they get it when they sign up for the [public] Internet.<br>
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If one of my hosts on one of my networks was causing an issue or not
working properly, I hope that some kind [anonymous] person would
attempt to contact me ASAP so I can deal with the issue. I have no
reason to hide from anyone, and I certainly don't want any of my
equipment to cause trouble for my customers or anyone else on the
Internet!<br>
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Patrick Klos<br>
Klos Technologies, Inc.<br>
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<div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><b>From: </b>Patrick
Klos <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:patrick@klos.com"><patrick@klos.com></a><b><br>
To: </b>Steven Noble <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:snoble@sonn.com"><snoble@sonn.com></a><b><br>
Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net">"ARIN-PPML@arin.net"</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net"><ARIN-PPML@arin.net></a><b><br>
Sent: </b>Fri, Oct 26, 2012 15:19:41 CDT<b><br>
Subject: </b>Re: [arin-ppml] POC privacy<br>
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<div class="PlainText">Steven Noble wrote:<br>
> Michael Siebel called Kyle's friends and found out he was in Lake
Tahoe and got the address of the house. So here's a problem for you,
you know the address where someone is and he's not answering his phone.
How do you get a message to him right away? Michael went on Yelp and
looked for a pizza place near the house and called them up and said, "I
want to have a pizza delivered. But never mind the pizza. Just send a
delivery guy over and say these four words: The site is down." The
pizza place was very confused by this, but they send the pizza guy
without a pizza, Kyle answers the door, and the pizza guy says, "The
site is down." Kyle was able to fix it, and the site was down for less
than an hour total from beginning to end.<br>
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> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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Wow... PIZZA-GRAM... that's a great story! (And you typed in on an <br>
iPhone - I don't have the patience!)<br>
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I've been known to jump through hoops once or twice to track down <br>
someone at some domain or network, but Michael Siebel has taken it to <br>
the next level. I am seriously impressed! I'll have to remember this <br>
one. I suspect it'll work with Chinese take-out as well?? ;^)<br>
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I hope Kyle got a pizza out of the deal anyway?<br>
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Patrick<br>
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