The discussion to date seems to have focused on the Residential Customer Privacy implications of this definition change. However, I think the more important change (and IIRC, what originally prompted Cameron to speak up) was the fact that ARIN is only applying 4.2.3.7.3.1. Residential Market Area (<a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2373">https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four2373</a>) to wireline technologies, whereas the same addressing challenges are present in wireless deployments as well. The relevant text in that section reads:<div>
<br></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Initial allocations are based on total number of homes that could purchase the service in a given market area.<br>
Using SWIP or RWhois, residential access ISPs must show that they have reassigned at least 80% of their current address space, with a 50 to 80% utilization rate, in order to request additional addresses.</blockquote><div>
<br></div><div>Cameron, is that accurate?</div><div><br></div><div>-Scott<br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Leif Sawyer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lsawyer@gci.com" target="_blank">lsawyer@gci.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, as a provider of Internet to residential and business users in rural Alaska, we don't have the option in many villages of wireline delivery.<br>
<br>
Therefore we use wireless delivery. But this isn't "personal" nor "mobile" delivery, at least as far as my old eyes tell me...<br>
<br>
So, cleaning up vagaries of policy is in the best interest, n'est pas?<br>
<br>
<br>
Or maybe I'm misunderstanding some point in the thread?<br>
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William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Cameron Byrne <<a href="mailto:cb.list6@gmail.com">cb.list6@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I would just like the policy to be the same for wireless and wireline<br>
> networks that sell service to individual people.<br>
><br>
> I am not asking for any special provisions or changes to policy<br>
> itself, just change to the definition of a single term.<br>
><br>
> Today, this clumsy word "residential" is used, and ARIN staff say<br>
> residential service implies wires to a house where somebody lives.<br>
<br>
Well, OK, if that's what ARIN staff say and it can't be fixed<br>
administratively then let's fix it in the policy. But let's be a<br>
little cautious about unintended consequences.<br>
<br>
The folks who wrote that policy put "personal" and "home" in there<br>
five different times because they wanted to be extra sure that ARIN<br>
staff wouldn't apply it to a broader use. Clarifying it to mean<br>
regardless of technology may not reopen that debate or the can of<br>
worms that went with it. Expanding it to a new user class, mobile<br>
users, probably does.<br>
<br>
I figure if you can fix the problem you've identified without<br>
reopening the debate then you've a better chance of getting the<br>
problem fixed. Am I wrong?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Bill Herrin<br>
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