<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I don't see anywhere in the documents that it states a transfer of ownership occurred.<div><br></div><div>The words assigned, registered, registration, etc. in fact, to me, imply a non-ownership relationship.</div><div><br></div><div>While I don't have time at this very moment to run through all of the documents referenced, I'm willing to bet that at least one of them contains an indication that addresses are assigned for a particular use and should be returned when that use is no longer valid.</div><div><br></div><div>Even if it is not in those documents, it was certainly the clear intent of the IANA, IAB, and IETF back then.</div><div><br></div><div>I will note that "the internet" was defined at that time in terms of the government organization that would sponsor your connection. (according to the documents your provided).</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">As I mentioned in my long submission last week, I am one of those “Legacy” holder of a /24 IP block that I got from the InterNIC on 3/14/94. I got others for my customers around that time and I have their original paperwork as well. I was asked if I would share a copy of my documents to this community for everyone to see and I have scanned them and attached them to this submission. These are the full documents I received with nothing blocked out. The first document is what I received from the InterNIC when I asked to get an IP block and the second document is my actual award letter from them. You will notice that there is no legal agreement or similar language that came with the paperwork. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This is why I say that I own this block (even if it is small). There were no restrictions placed on it when I received it. I paid taxes to the federal government in 1994 and thus my taxes went to pay for the block and therefore I believe I paid for it. I know others will disagree but since no other legal documents other than these exist, short of a law that would sort it out, I have made the determination that this block is mine and I am using it today. <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I hope sharing these original documents help further the debate going on about these legacy IP blocks and I plan on submitting more comments on this subject within another submission. 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