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<DIV>Also not standard:</DIV>
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<DIV>8.3 called for transfer from the seller to ARIN to be specifically
transferred to the buyer. Did Nortel ever transfer addresses to ARIN?</DIV>
<DIV>8.3 called for a single block</DIV>
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<DIV>And lest we all forget, stupid, stupid Microsoft paid $7.5 million for
addresses which ARIN says they could have got from ARIN for free, because they
passed the justification test.</DIV>
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<DIV>It’s been over a year, and that transaction still smells.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mueller@syr.edu
href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">Milton L Mueller</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 22, 2012 12:45 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=scottleibrand@gmail.com
href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">Scott Leibrand</A> ; <A
title=SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com
href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com">Steven Ryerse</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-174 Policies Apply to All
Resourcesin the Registry</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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love this understatement from Scott: “the only thing non-standard about the
Nortel-Microsoft transfer was that Microsoft signed the LRSA instead of the
RSA.”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">To
put it more directly, ARIN abandon its policies. We all know what happened here.
ARIN begged MSFT not to go ahead with the transaction without acknowledging its
policies. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">MSFT
was offered an LRSA instead of being required to sign an RSA, as the 8.3
transfer policy clearly states it should, as part of the bargaining process.
MSFT agreed to do that, even though it didn’t have to, to be a good citizen.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Problem
now is, major legacy buyers are in a situation of individually bargaining with
ARIN; there is no generally applicable policy. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New','serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yeah,
that’s “non-standard” <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Scott Leibrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:20 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Steven Ryerse<BR><B>Cc:</B> arin-ppml@arin.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-174 Policies Apply to All Resources in the
Registry<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Steven Ryerse <<A
href="mailto:SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com"
target=_blank>SRyerse@eclipse-networks.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><snip><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I would like to be treated the same as Microsoft and sign
the same agreement they got to sign from ARIN (I've never read it) and not
have to prove I need the addresses like they didn't have to. This means
I think everyone should be treated equally by ARIN in every transfer. Of
course if Microsoft has to prove they need them then of course I'd be happy to
prove I need them too - but I don't think Microsoft did have to prove their
need and ARIN ended up being a party to the transaction.
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>ARIN has publicly stated that Microsoft had to follow the
policy that requires needs justification, just as any other transfer recipient
would have to do. AFAIK (and I'm only aware of what's been publicly posted
here to PPML and at public policy meetings) the only thing non-standard about
the Nortel-Microsoft transfer was that Microsoft signed the LRSA instead of the
RSA. And since the only real remaining difference between the two is the
fee schedule, that is definitely not a policy matter.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>-Scott<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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