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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>John,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Yes, I understand that’s ARIN’s policy position. I believe, however, that Prof. Mueller’s recent PPML post on the issue should be given considerable weight when deciding whether/when to use sticks vs. carrots to develop policies directed at off-contract legacy number holders. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On Jun 7, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> We don't need to debate whether consensus exists or not. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> When it comes to legacy resources, community consensus is irrelevant. A company without a contract has no legal or any other kind of obligation to ARIN consensus processes. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>-Marc Lindsey<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Curran [mailto:jcurran@arin.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 07, 2012 4:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> Lindsey, Marc<br><b>Cc:</b> ARIN-PPML@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-171 Section 8.4 Modifications: ASN and legacy resources<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>On Jun 7, 2012, at 2:49 PM, "Lindsey, Marc" <<a href="mailto:mlindsey@lb3law.com">mlindsey@lb3law.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoPlainText>The policy proposal addresses many of the current “tensions” arising out of the legacy resource trading market. It recognizes, in policy, the practical reality that attempting to extend ARIN’s existing policies designed for numbers under contract with ARIN (where ARIN has direct control) to legacy numbers that are not under contract with ARIN (where ARIN has no direct control) has its limits and is currently producing (possibly) unintended consequences that I believe are undesirable for the community. <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Marc - <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> This is a mischaracterization, as the p<span class=apple-style-span>olicies developed by the community have always applied to all resources in the region. They are not "being extended " to some new class of resources; we have been applying them since inception, and LRSA contractual status has been to provide assurances to the legacy holder, not ARIN.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>FYI,</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>/John </span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>John Curran</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>President and CEO</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>ARIN</span></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>