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<DIV>Hi John,</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks, then the effect of current policy would be to prevent people from
acquiring space from the free pool and then selling it within a year.</DIV>
<DIV>All to the good.</DIV>
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<DIV>In that case I will simply say in answer to Cathy that I support stringent
needs tests for free pool allocations and no needs test for all transfers,
within and outside our region.</DIV>
<DIV>This would put ARIN members on an equal footing with the rest of the world
and assuage the doubts Bill Herrin rightly has about fairness, should another
RIR change policies to remove or reduce needs tests.</DIV>
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<DIV>In the converse case you present, I would support a policy whereby those
who sell addresses may not tap the free pool again, even if their needs change
and they have a justifiable need.</DIV>
<DIV>Let them get their new addresses from the transfer market.</DIV>
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<DIV>But I don’t want to take this discussion off the rails.</DIV>
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<DIV>Let me say to Bill and others that should another RIR decide to remove or
reduce needs tests for transfers, leaving ARIN members at an unfair
disadvantage, the expedient solution is to have ARIN drop their needs
requirements for transfers, restoring fairness. </DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Mike</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jcurran@arin.net
href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">John Curran</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 21, 2011 11:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=mike@nationwideinc.com
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">Mike Burns</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cja@daydream.com href="mailto:cja@daydream.com">CJ
Aronson</A> ; <A title=bill@herrin.us href="mailto:bill@herrin.us">William
Herrin</A> ; <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1:
ARINInter-RIRTransfers - Last Call</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Mike Burns wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>IMO, yes, there should be a stringent justification for need for free
pool addresses, and no need justification for transfers, as long as we prevent
gaming the system through simple expedients like preventing transfers of
addresses from those who have tapped the free pool less than a year ago, and
limiting needs-free transfers to less than a /12 per
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<DIV>Mike - </DIV>
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<DIV> A party which requests assignments from ARIN's free
pool</DIV>
<DIV> based on documented need, and then subsequently attempts
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<DIV> to transfer them within 12 months is likely to be
considered</DIV>
<DIV> an attempt at number resource fraud under existing
policy</DIV>
<DIV> (as they filed documentation which explained their need
and </DIV>
<DIV> which they now no longer have, but now replaced by a
desire</DIV>
<DIV> for monetization of the obtained resources)
ARIN is highly</DIV>
<DIV> likely to initiate NRPM 12 resource review to confirm
that the</DIV>
<DIV> original request for resources was not fraudulent in
nature.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> I cannot state the converse is true (a party which
transfers</DIV>
<DIV> addresses suddenly having developed a new need for
more</DIV>
<DIV> addresses because of changing circumstances) We
would</DIV>
<DIV> obviously carefully evaluate the request, but are
unlikely to</DIV>
<DIV> be able to prevent making an otherwise valid
assignment</DIV>
<DIV> without specific policy guidance which prevents that
form </DIV>
<DIV> of "gaming the system". I do not know if such
policy would</DIV>
<DIV> be desirable but note it for completeness in
consideration of</DIV>
<DIV> the proposed draft policy.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>FYI,</DIV>
<DIV>/John</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John Curran</DIV>
<DIV>President and CEO</DIV>
<DIV>ARIN</DIV>
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