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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello Bill,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Opposed because it prevents the regions with the
largest number of allocations from transferring to the region with the highest
demand due to language about needs-based policies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Stewards of these resources should seek
cooperation between regions and not seek to exacerbate nuances of difference
about views of stewardship at the cost of ostracizing those who think
differently.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Is it really necessary to poke APNIC in the eye
just because their stewards consider these needs policies a risk to Whois
accuracy?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Even if we believe their conclusion is wrong, is it
worth the discord engendered by the proposed language?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Can't we operate on the basis that each registry
community is acting as honest stewards and not erect barriers when we
disagree?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I mean, we still have to agree to any transfers.
Leaving us free to make decisions based on individual circumstances, rather than
explicitly excluding all Asian transfers.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>All we are doing is driving such transfers
underground.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>(Since Bill is looking for concise feedback and not
a rehash of prior discussions, please consider my questions
rhetorical.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Maybe I would change the language from "needs-based
policies on behalf of entities" to "needs-based policies applying to entities"
because I think it is more accurate.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike Burns</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=BillD@cait.wustl.edu href="mailto:BillD@cait.wustl.edu">Bill
Darte</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:ppml@arin.net">arin ppml</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rs@seastrom.com
href="mailto:rs@seastrom.com">Robert E. Seastrom</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:30
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2011-1
- Inter-RIR Transfers - Shepherd'sInquiry</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><SPAN lang=EN>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=296371014-21062011>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296371014-21062011>Please provide you
immediate, concise feeback which states your position <U>for or against the DP
as changed</U> from its earlier version and any reasoning you may wish to
provide.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296371014-21062011></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296371014-21062011>I am proposing that the
original <A href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2011_1.html">Draft
Policy 2011-1: Globally Coordinated Transfer
Policy</A> ....</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296371014-21062011>Be renamed.... Draft
Policy 2011-1: Inter-RIR Transfers...</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=296371014-21062011>and that the DP text
be modified to the following to accommodate the many insights and concerns
shared with me and the AC by members of the community and the AC
itself.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=296371014-21062011>"</SPAN>Address resources may be
transferred.... in or out of the ARIN region to those who demonstrate need and
plan to deploy them for a networking purpose within 3 months. Such transfers
will take place between RIRs who share compatible<SPAN
class=020093710-14062011>,</SPAN> needs-based policies on behalf of entities
agreeing to the transfer and which otherwise meet both RIR's policies.
Transferred resources will become part of the resource holdings of the
recipient RIR unless otherwise agreed by both RIRs.<SPAN
class=296371014-21062011>"</SPAN></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=020093710-14062011>Reasoning....</SPAN>It is explicit
about..</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial>in or out of region,<BR>that transfers are between
RIRs that support needs-based policies, <BR>that RIRs have to agree, <BR>that
parties meet all of both RIR policies <BR>that it is needs based, and the need
is for a networking purpose, <BR>that the receiving RIR is entitled to the
addresses</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think all these details were raised as objections
at one time or another...so it seems best to waste a few more words to be
explicit.</FONT></P>
<P><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It is not explicit
about...<BR>block sizes<BR>utilization of prior allocations, assignments or
transfers<BR>RFC 2050<BR>subsequent transfers</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Nor should it be,
IMO</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><SPAN class=296371014-21062011><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Thank you for your continuing involvement in the ARIN Policy
Development Process.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><SPAN class=296371014-21062011><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Best,</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN class=020093710-14062011><SPAN class=296371014-21062011><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Bill Darte<BR>Primary Shepherd DP
2011-1</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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