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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>RIPE requires their final /8 to be distributed in
/22 chunks, and you have to already have an IPv6 allocation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What if they regard us as not having compatible
needs requirements?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>What is to be gained by including that language,
except to engender Inter-RIR conflict?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The wording already includes both RIRs to approve
the transfer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>There is no definition in the policy or elsewhere
in the NRPM of "compatible" needs policies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I don't see the point in including it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=owen@delong.com href="mailto:owen@delong.com">Owen DeLong</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=frnkblk@iname.com
href="mailto:frnkblk@iname.com">frnkblk@iname.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">ARIN-PPML List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] Integrating
Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1 into NRPM 8.3</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I would prefer since we are venturing into inter-RIR territory
to have this policy be as specific and complete
<DIV>as possible and stand alone to the greatest possible extent. In this
case, I think excessive clarity where</DIV>
<DIV>practicable is worth while.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Owen</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On May 24, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Since
currently ARIN policy implements the needs-basis, isn’t mentioning that
requirement in 2011-1 redundant? Or are you concerned that some ARIN
policies might remove the needs-basis requirement and you want to preserve
the requirement in the inter-RIR transfer?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</A><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Owen
DeLong<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:47
AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Scott
Leibrand<BR><B>Cc:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>ARIN-PPML
List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re:
[arin-ppml] Integrating Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1 into NRPM
8.3<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
still would prefer to see the needs-basis comment preserved as
well.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
May 23, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">So
perhaps:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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to another RIR, for transfer to a specified recipient in that RIR's service
region, if both RIRs agree and the request meets both RIRs' transfer
policies.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
agree it's useful to preserve discretion. I think I might prefer this to the
text I originally had below...
Thoughts?<BR><BR>Scott<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<P
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class=MsoNormal><BR>On May 23, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Owen DeLong <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
prefer to preserve the safety valve of requiring agreement from both
RIRs.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
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<DIV
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
May 23, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Why
don’t we change the second point to:</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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to another RIR, for transfer to a specified recipient in that RIR's
service<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">region,
if the request meets both RIRS’ transfer policies.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
title=scottleibrand@gmail.com href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Scott Leibrand</A></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target=_blank>Owen
DeLong</A></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
title=arin-ppml@arin.net href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net"
target=_blank>ARIN-PPML List</A></SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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23, 2011 5:21 PM</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Re:
[arin-ppml] Integrating Draft Policy ARIN-2011-1 into NRPM
8.3</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Owen DeLong <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
could support this, but, I have a couple of lingering
concerns.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I
think that the last sentence dictates too much in the case of a
transfer to another region and should only apply to transfers within
the ARIN region.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yeah,
I was wondering about that myself. Possible slight revision
inline below...<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal>On May 23, 2011, at 15:54, Scott Leibrand <<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In
light of the discomfort a number of community and AC members feel
with the original 2011-1 text, I thought I'd make an attempt at
integrating it into the framework of NRPM 8.3, to see if the
result would be tighter and less ambiguous. Here's what I
came up with:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">8.3.
Transfers to Specified Recipients<BR><BR>In addition to transfers
under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may be released to ARIN
by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for
transfer:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in" type=disc>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
class=MsoNormal>to a specified organizational recipient within
the ARIN region, or <O:P></O:P>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
class=MsoNormal>to another RIR, for transfer to a specified
organizational recipient in that RIR's service region, if the
two RIRs agree and maintain compatible, needs-based transfer
policies.<O:P></O:P></LI></UL>
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<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Such
transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by
organizations that can demonstrate the need for such resources, as
a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify
under current ARIN policies.
<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">How
about "<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Such number
resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that can
demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the
exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN, or recipient
RIR, policies." ?</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Or, feel free
to suggest text...</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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reference, existing policy reads:<BR>8.3. Transfers to Specified
Recipients<BR><BR>In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4
number resources within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by
the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer
to another specified organizational recipient. Such transferred
number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations
that are within the ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for
such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which
they can justify under current ARIN
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RIR's resource registrant may transfer IPv4 addresses to
the resource registrant of another RIR as long as the two
RIRs agree and maintain compatible, needs-based transfer
policies that exercise Internet stewardship consistent with
the values expressed in
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