<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>How about this, instead...</div><div><br></div><div>8.3 Transfers to Specified Recipients</div><div><br></div><div>In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may be released to ARIN</div><div>by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>+ to specified organizational recipient(s) within the ARIN region</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>that will receive such resources as a single aggregate, in the</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>+ to another RIR, for transfer to a specified recipient in that RIR's service</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>region, if the two RIRs agree and maintain compatible, needs-based</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>transfer policies.</div><div><br></div><div>In other words, let's bind the latter requirements only to the intra-regional transfers</div><div>as I believe that they are out of scope for the burdens we should be allowed to</div><div>place on inter-regional transfers on the part of the other RIR.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I would like to see us relocate the</div><div>single aggregate clause to make it binding on the actual community intent and if we're</div><div>going to turn 2011-1 into a policy to modify 8.3 anyway, we should incorporate that</div>
<div>change.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would like to see another proposal to do this (and to be discussed as a counterpoint to ARIN-prop-144 in Philadelphia). </div><div> </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>Fair enough... Remember, you asked for it. ;-)<div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5"><div>On May 23, 2011, at 15:54, Scott Leibrand <<a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:scottleibrand@gmail.com">scottleibrand@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div>In light of the discomfort a number of community and AC members feel with the original 2011-1 text, I thought I'd make an attempt at integrating it into the framework of NRPM 8.3, to see if the result would be tighter and less ambiguous. Here's what I came up with:</div>
<div><br></div>8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients<br><br>In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer:<br>
<ul><li>to a specified organizational recipient within the ARIN region, or </li><li>to another RIR, for transfer to a specified organizational recipient in that RIR's service region, if the two RIRs agree and maintain compatible, needs-based transfer policies.</li>
</ul><div>Such transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies. <br>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How about "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Such number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN, or recipient RIR, policies." ?</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Or, feel free to suggest text...</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">-Scott</span></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><br></div><div>For reference, existing policy reads:<br>
8.3. Transfers to Specified Recipients<br><br>In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources within the ARIN region may be released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder, in whole or in part, for transfer to another specified organizational recipient. Such transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by organizations that are within the ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And original 2011-1 text reads:</div><div>Any RIR's resource registrant may transfer IPv4 addresses to the resource registrant of another RIR as long as the two RIRs agree and maintain compatible, needs-based transfer policies that exercise Internet stewardship consistent with the values expressed in RFC2050.</div>
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