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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Blake,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My proposal includes a limit of /12 of needs-free
transfers specifically to prevent hoarding and market cornering.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>(It's a recent addition.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ikiris@gmail.com href="mailto:ikiris@gmail.com">Blake Dunlap</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mike@nationwideinc.com
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">Mike Burns</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tvest@eyeconomics.com
href="mailto:tvest@eyeconomics.com">Tom Vest</A> ; <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 19, 2011 5:44
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer
Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 16:35, Mike Burns <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">mike@nationwideinc.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>I never claimed that Geoff Huston, whom I have never
met, did not have a preference for market-based solutions, only that he did
not view the danger of disaggregation as a reason to have needs requirements
for transfers. Unless you are implying that his preference for market-based
solutions has somehow overridden his BGP expertise, my point stands.
<DIV class=im><BR><BR></DIV><FONT color=#888888>Mike</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>Just want to make sure to clear this up, my basis for not wanting to
remove needs requirement has nothing to do with deaggregation. Honestly I see
deaggregation looming regardless of this proposal. The reason I strongly
believe needs should remain is to make sure all IPs go to someone who will
actually use them, instead of hoarding.<BR><BR>If you go back and reread my
proposal as an alternative to this, you'll see that I am not opposed to
opening up and facilitating transfers, even to giving legacy holders free
reign for selling their extra space, but I don't see any use for allowing the
market to be completely cornered by players or IPs to be hoarded. They are
still a very limited resource until an actual mass migration to IPv6 occurs,
and we need to act accordingly.<BR><BR>Needs basis in all its forms is not to
protect the routing table, it is to protect the availability to the largest
amount of players.<BR><BR>-Blake <BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>