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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Jon,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Here are some examples of an entity that may want
to purchase addresses but not demonstrate need:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1. A company with a 5 year planning
horizon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>2. A company that wants to provide temporary
allocations </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>3. A company that wants to specialize in very rapid
allocations, like same-day service.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>4. A company that stocks addresses for sale in to
those who would pay more for guaranteed availability</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>5. A company who is concerned about future
supply.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>6. A company that wishes to lease address space
rather than sell it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>7. A company who seeks to buy up small allocations
to aggregate them in to larger, more valuable netblocks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>8. A seller of vanity ip addresses like
100.100.100.100</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>9. A speculator willing to risk money to buy
addresses as an investment for anticipated gains in address prices.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>10. A company whose anticipated need does not begin
for 12 months.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I'm sure there are many more that I cannot think
of. I agree with you that most buyers will have need, and I agree with you that
most buyers will see the value of maintaining a valid ARIN whois record pointing
to their authority.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But the policy in APNIC was changed to remove needs
requirements for transfers for the same reasons I am requesting its removal
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>My policy proposal also has the benefit of
incentivizing legacy resources to come under RSA, and it serves to even the
playing field between the disparate rights of legacy versus non-legacy
holders.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And my underlying point is the obvious one, that
the very act of paying for address space is a very good indication of need, or
at least perceived need on the part of the buyer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=fernattj@gmail.com href="mailto:fernattj@gmail.com">Jonathan
Fernatt</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mike@nationwideinc.com
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">Mike Burns</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer
Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate</DIV>
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<DIV class=im><BR></DIV>What is the great benefit that outweighs the danger
to Whois of unbooked transfers and the benefits of incentivizing legacy
resources to come under RSA?<BR>Who says my proposal would result in
completely unregulated markets? Every transferee would sign an RSA and be
subject to ARIN policy.<BR>And with my policy or without my policy,
addresses are bound to flow to the highest bidder.<BR>If the policy proposal
doesn't fly, it will be to the highest bidder who can show need.<BR>Do you
think that we should take more steps to protect the little guy in this
event?<BR>Maybe a price cap? An address czar?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>I keep seeing seeing this argument from you Mike. I honestly can't
understand why you think the needs requirement is such an obstacle for a
company with a legitimate need for addresses that they would have to avoid
ARIN altogether. Following that same train of thought, wouldn't it be easier
for a company who didn't care about the process or being honest to just
falsify their needs justification?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I deal with tiny tiny tiny companies who have had no problem whatsoever
showing need for resources. ARIN staff and policy have always seemed very
accommodating from my perspective. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Have you had a different experience?</DIV></DIV><BR>
<DIV>Jon</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>