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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Keith,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I don't care much about private registries, that is
not the thrust of my proposal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I do think this nascent market would evolve more
robustly in an environment were customers (address holders) could shop for
registries who compete on price and performance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But this thread is related to a letter to ICANN
proposing to have a decision made at that level in order to counter perceived
conflict of interest at the RIR/ASO level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I supported that idea because I believe that
private registries are a good idea, and I do think there is a conflict, but
there was no proposal involved, ever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think Mr. McTim posted a notice to the list
regarding some rather dated correspondence on ICANN's page.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I merely supported the letter writer's
position.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If I offer a proposal to the ARIN-PPML, it will be
to remove all justification requirements for all transfers, while retaining them
for the free pool.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Per David Farmer advice about repeating, I
repeat:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This would</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>1. Level the playing field between RSA and LRSAs,
and in combination with the simplified LRSA Mr. Herrin has proposed, will have
the effect of bringing many legacy addresses under agreement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>2. Allow for ARIN to accurately depict inevitable
MS/Nortel-type future transfers as being done within policy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>3. Steward the addresses to their most efficient
use as determined by free market price</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>4. Save ARIN a lot of time and money</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>5. Encourage accurate POC information for legacy
addresses which have changed hands outside ARIN purview.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>6. Bring ARIN into compliance with the stewardship
policies of the RIR with the highest demand and closest to exhaust</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>7 End these angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin
discussions about single aggregate policy and 3, 12, or 24 month needs analyses
for transfers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>8 It will moot the need to protect STLS
listers from ARIN poaching, increasing supply and reducing price</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Keith@jcc.com href="mailto:Keith@jcc.com">Keith W. Hare</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mike@nationwideinc.com
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">Mike Burns</A> ; <A
title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:56 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [arin-ppml] Fw: Accusation
of fundamentalconflictofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to
ICANN</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So
far, we have seen only bits of policy proposals that hint at the idea of
competing private address registries. Without a policy proposal that covers
all of the details, we are left to extrapolate the remaining pieces. This
extrapolation may or may not be what competing address registry proponents
have in mind, but until we see a full policy proposal, we are left with only
perceptions of your (and others) motivations.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mike Burns<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
John Sweeting<BR><B>Cc:</B> arin-ppml@arin.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[arin-ppml] Fw: Accusation of fundamental conflictofinterest/IPaddress policy
pitched directly to ICANN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG>It really is as easy as rounding up all the support
you can muster, have that support join PPML, submit the proposal that you
would like see made policy and then have your support show their support
through PPML and the next PPM. Is there a reason you do not want to follow
that process? It might help gain support if you provided your underlying
motivation(s).</STRONG><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">-John
Sweeting</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi
John,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My interest is in
having a market for the buying and selling of IP addresses free from
government and psuedo-government restrictions like taxes and justification
requirements.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I think this will
best serve the interests of a community long held in thrall to the vision of
an IPv6 transition that simply has not occurred in anything like the predicted
timeframe.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I would prefer that
any support I find not be motivated by perceptions of my motivations,
just my words and ideas.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I voiced support
for the concept of having a informed higher authority make the decision about
competing registries requested in the letter which started the thread. I
support competing registries because I believe that their competitive forces
will move the market towards freedom, and because presumably a competing
registry could decide its own, more liberal transfer
policy.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My understanding is
that one way to get that accomplished, and I will accede it would be the
better way, would be for the participants in policy making in all 5 RIRs
come together to forge a policy allowing for competing private
registries.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">But I think that is
like expecting Network Solutions to have voted for competing DNS
registrars. Unlikely to happen due to institutional conflicts of interest.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(I understand that
NetSol was not a community run org like the RIRs, but I see a natural
institutional conflict between those who dominate a closed market
and those who seek to expand it.)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(And yes, this is
also a commentary on the tiny number of participants who seem to people the
RIR executive positions, and by extension the tiny groups of vocal
participants in the RIR-PPML process.)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(And yes, I have
lost trust in ARIN staff since the MS/Nortel
debacle)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">But nobody seems
too sure what that higher authority is, and of course some participants see
the community of RIR-PPML participants as the highest authority of
all.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I didn't write that
letter, nor do I have any relationship with the writer of the letter, to my
knowledge I have never met, conversed, or emailed with
him.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">As for changing
policy in the ARIN region, that is my intent, and I have heard from another
poster who is interested in co-sponsoring a proposal designed to create a free
market for ip transfers.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">So I will work with
him to do just as you say, round up support and see if we can get a proposal
that passes muster with the PPML and can be included in the next
PPM.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mike
Burns</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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