<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">mike@nationwideinc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><b><div class="im"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">It
really is as easy as rounding up all the support you can muster, have that
support join PPML, submit the proposal that you would like see made policy and
then have your support show their support through PPML and the next PPM. Is
there a reason you do not want to follow that process? It might help gain
support if you provided your underlying motivation(s).</font><br></div>-John
Sweeting<br></b></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi John,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">My interest is in having a market for the buying
and selling of IP addresses free from government and psuedo-government
restrictions like taxes and justification requirements.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I think this will best serve the interests of a
community long held in thrall to the vision of an IPv6 transition that simply
has not occurred in anything like the predicted timeframe.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I would prefer that any support I find not be
motivated by perceptions of my motivations, just my words and
ideas.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Thanks for sharing this. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I voiced support for the concept of having a
informed higher authority make the decision about competing registries requested
in the letter which started the thread. I support competing registries because I
believe that their competitive forces will move the market towards freedom, and
because presumably a competing registry could decide its own, more liberal
transfer policy.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">My understanding is that one way to get that
accomplished, and I will accede it would be the better way, would be
for the participants in policy making in all 5 RIRs come together to forge
a policy allowing for competing private registries.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">But I think that is like expecting Network
Solutions to have voted for competing DNS registrars. Unlikely to happen
due to institutional conflicts of interest. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">(I understand that NetSol was not a community run
org like the RIRs, but I see a natural institutional conflict between
those who dominate a closed market and those who seek to expand
it.)</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Understand.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">(And yes, this is also a commentary on the tiny
number of participants who seem to people the RIR executive positions, and by
extension the tiny groups of vocal participants in the RIR-PPML
process.)</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>The AC would love to see participation from a greater number of participants as well, it helps us when we are working on policies. One thing I have noticed over the years that when things start to go against the majority's wishes, they do speak up.<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">(And yes, I have lost trust in ARIN staff since the
MS/Nortel debacle)</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Sorry to hear that but for me, not knowing all the facts and intricacies involved, my respect and trust for ARIN staff has grown. I do not know of a professional organization that takes their commitment to their members any more seriously than the folks at ARIN. <br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">But nobody seems too sure what that higher
authority is, and of course some participants see the community of RIR-PPML
participants as the highest authority of all.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I, for one, echo that sentiment but would expand it to the whole of the world community as PPML is just one vehicle for getting your voice heard.<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I didn't write that letter, nor do I have any
relationship with the writer of the letter, to my knowledge I have never met,
conversed, or emailed with him.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">As for changing policy in the ARIN region, that is
my intent, and I have heard from another poster who is interested in
co-sponsoring a proposal designed to create a free market for ip
transfers.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>That is great, looking forward to seeing your proposal. Thank you for participating. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So I will work with him to do just as you say,
round up support and see if we can get a proposal that passes muster with the
PPML and can be included in the next PPM.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Very good and thanks again.<br><br>-john <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regards,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Mike Burns</font></div>
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