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Once again I declare my neutrality. I'm neither pro nor anti Microsoft,
Nortel, Addrex, or anyone else mentioned in the discussion.<br>
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I am aware of that transaction from press reports. As I understand it,
Microsoft bought a defunct portion of a company in Chapter 11
bankruptcy in order to obtain access to a chunk of legacy space.<br>
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<span id="intellitxt" name="intellitxt">According to press reports, 80
parties were contacted by Addrex and Nortel</span>. Were major Asian
providers like China Mobile China Telecom, and Bharti Airtel<em></em>
on that contact list? I don't know.<br>
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But just because two companies like Microsoft and Addrex do something
once in the US (and potentially "get away with it") certainly does not
IMVHO set a precedent for global policy on how to run the Internet, nor
establish a market value for an IPv4 address.<br>
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In fact one could very succinctly argue that precisely this example
could/should trigger the ARIN / ICANN community to now officially adopt
a tighter /explicit policy like example #7 I mentioned.<br>
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7) Ask ARIN to prevent any and all transfers that are motivated purely
by financial gain, and instead insist that such participants return
IPv4 allocations to the unallocated pool "for the benefit of the
Internet Community" once the existing allocation is no longer needed.<br>
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The ARIN community directs how ARIN operates. Microsoft are also
members of the ARIN community.<br>
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The Internet is far bigger than the US. As others have warned, there's
potentially a huge risk of organizations like the ITU and the WTO
getting involved in a major trade dispute. I doubt if anyone would look
forward to that conflict, or that (m)any in the Internet community
would indeed benefit.<br>
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regards,<br>
RayH<br>
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Mike Burns wrote:
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Re: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict
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<div>No one owns the addresses today. They're just 32 bit numbers.
That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. No one ever owned the
addresses. They have zero intrinsic value.<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Ray,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">That train has left the station.
Nortel sold addresses to Microsoft for $7.5 million.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Addresses which have been
allocated very obviously have a value different from a random string of
32 bit numbers. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You can argue that they shouldn't,
you can argue that correct stewardship would be to establish policies
to kill IPv4 and thus transition more swiftly.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">But you can't argue that they have
zero value.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regards,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Mike</font></div>
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