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<DIV>>If you can provide examples of transfers you both do and don't wish to
allow, I'll be happy to come up with wording to express your intent. As it
stands, though, I >don't understand your (or anyone else's) intent well
enough to try.<BR><BR>>S<BR><BR><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Steve,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Here is why I call BS on the claim that these
transfers comply with policy:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Such transferred number resources may only be received under RSA by
organizations that are within the ARIN region and can demonstrate the need for
such resources, as a single aggregate, in the exact amount which they can
justify under current ARIN policies."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>That is the text. The comma between resources and
"as a single aggregate" can be read to cause the "as a single aggregate" clause
to apply to either the verb phrase "be received" or the verb
phrase "can demonstrate."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>But how would anybody demonstrate a need for
multiple netblocks anyway?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Isn't the need ALWAYS determined as a single
aggregate?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=stephen@sprunk.org href="mailto:stephen@sprunk.org">Stephen
Sprunk</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=owen@delong.com
href="mailto:owen@delong.com">Owen DeLong</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net">arin-ppml@arin.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 30, 2011 8:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN / Microsoft
press release regarding IP addressTransfers</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>On 16-Apr-11 02:19, Owen DeLong wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:40FE8F42-0AAA-4FD8-AA55-CD91FACC99B0@delong.com
type="cite">On Apr 15, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">On 15-Apr-11 19:00, Matthew Kaufman wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">The adopted policies (if they are using the
"relatively new policy" as alluded to in the release) require the
transfer of *a single aggregate*.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not quite.
NRPM 8.3 only requires the receiver "demonstrate the need for such
resources, as a single aggregate", not that a single aggregate be
transferred. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>... I do not believe that Stephen's
interpretation below matches the meaning or the intent of the policy as I
understand it. ...</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I don't think it does either, for the
record. However, this points out how bad wording has left us in a
situation where we're not sure <I>what</I> the policy text means--much less
whether we agree with it.<BR><BR>
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type="cite">
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<DIV>I do agree that your interpretation would be a syntactically and
grammatically valid construction, but, I believe it is contextually
nonsensical and not the intended meaning of the words.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If anyone has a suggestion for making the actual intent more clear, I
am open to suggestions and would support making an editorial correction for
clarity.</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If you can provide examples of
transfers you both do and don't wish to allow, I'll be happy to come up with
wording to express your intent. As it stands, though, I don't understand
your (or anyone else's) intent well enough to try.<BR><BR>S<BR><BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">--
Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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