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On 28-Apr-11 13:47, John Curran wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Apr 28, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote</pre>
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<pre wrap="">On Apr 28, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Leo Bicknell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bicknell@ufp.org"><bicknell@ufp.org></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Let me offer a middle ground. If we don't want staff making a policy proposal directly, could we at least get staff directly involved in having conversations about policy on PPML? Do we really have to wait for a twice a year report to learn from their experiences?
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+1
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To be clear, is this a suggest for staff to provide more realtime input with respect solely to implementation issues with existing and proposed policies, or also with respect to policy intention and goals?
e.g. "If 20xx-n had its second sentence reworded to match the existing
critical infrastructure definition, that would the clearer"
or also "If 20xx-n included World of Warcraft servers in the definition of
critical infrastructure, that might better serve the community..
(and certainly would make some of us happy)"
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IMHO, staff should be free to <i>ask </i>the community (via PPML
or any other appropriate means) about our intent and goals, but I'm
not comfortable with staff <i>telling</i> us what our intent or
goals <i>should</i> be.<br>
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Staff should also be free to point out when current or proposed
policy does not appear to meet our intent or goals, as discovered
above, or hard facts that are relevant to ongoing discussions. And,
when one points out a problem, it's polite to also offer one or more
possible solutions.<br>
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One has to balance concerns about staff having undue influence over
policy with concerns about staff silently watching the community
make bad policy.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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