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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I read the bankruptcy documents and I read the NRPM
and I have to insist that ARIN did not follow policy on this issue, as I am
using that fact to buttress my argument that only when ARIN's policies conform
to legal realities can we avoid the potential for corruption which must be
avoided if ARIN is to maintain its trust position. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Everything hinges on the phrase in the bankruptcy
docs which says these addresses were allocated to Nortel's "predecessors in
interest."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I read that and I looked up "predecessors in
interest" and I saw that legally it means that prior owners or those with a
prior interest in assets. The bankruptcy docs also say these came in the 1990s,
and we know they are legacy and thus came between 1990 and 1997 at the
latest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So I typed "Nortel acquisitions" into google and
the first hit was a nice chart on the Nortel page showing the list of their
acquisitions by date. It was not a long list, and some of the names were
familiar to me as a guy with 30 years of experience. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The names include Bay Networks, which a glance at
their wikipedia page indicated was formed from two prior companies I had also
heard of who were active in the 1990-97 time period.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>A simple search of whois for these entities would
reveal whether they ever had an allocation or not, but my supposition is that
these are the "predecessors in interest" whose IP addresses Nortel had the
exclusive right to transfer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Because this was a random aggregation of
allocations to ancient entities decades ago, it is simply asking too much for me
to believe that this aggregate amount was precisely the correct justification
for the sole entity who won the auction. Of all the companies in the world who
could have purchased these addresses, we are to believe that the one who did was
also the one who had a justified need that matched allocations to random
entities years and years ago. And that Microsoft, who presumably knew
their own need, decided to pay millions for what they could have received from
ARIN directly for free.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In addition, 8.3 requires the transfer of the
justified amount in a single aggregate, and if these are addresses from Nortel's
predecessors in Interest, how can they be a single aggregate?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If they are not a single aggregate, how does the
transfer conform to 8.3, even if we allow for the fiction of
justification?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>And if the deal was per policy, as you say, can we
make the assumption that it is entirely within ARIN policy for legacy IP
addresses to transfer as a result of mergers and acquistions without any notice
to ARIN?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Even if you don't wish to use the word ownership,
and instead use the words "rights to transfer", would it be correct to say that
legacy addresses can be transferred from entity to entity without notice to
ARIN?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>So what was the ARIN policy which allowed the
"rights to transfer" addresses from one company to another company without ARIN
involvement, which manifestly occurred here?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I hope you can come off that attestation of
adherence to policy. If we don't address the problems inherent in the needs
justification requirement, trust in ARIN suffers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We are the ARIN community. We shouldn't allow the
ARIN trust level to be eroded by maintaining justification policies that require
"creativity" in application, that foster mistrust in whois, and that provide a
disincentive to sign an LRSA.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>We do not require any punting to a global level.
APNIC did it and we can do it to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Remove justifications for all
transfers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jcurran@arin.net href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">John Curran</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mike@nationwideinc.com
href="mailto:mike@nationwideinc.com">Mike Burns</A> ; <A title=mike@sum.net
href="mailto:mike@sum.net">Mike Burns</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=rudi.daniel@gmail.com
href="mailto:rudi.daniel@gmail.com">Rudolph Daniel</A> ; <A
title=arin-ppml@arin.net
href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net List">arin-ppml@arin.net List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 29, 2011 10:02
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML
Digest, Vol 70, Issue 141</DIV>
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<DIV>On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Mike Burns wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hi Rudolph,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The difference in outcome in the Microsoft case
is that we would not have had to process the transfer outside of established
ARIN protocols, and we would have saved some of what I believe to be ARIN's
largest asset as we move forward into the ip trading world. That asset is
ARIN's position as a trust authority. ARIN must maintain the viability
of whois as a trusted source for network operators who are asked to
broadcast addresses as well as a trusted source for those seeking
verification of ownership/control as part of a transfer transaction. I
believe that if ARIN continues in its role as a title agency, that is,
vetting the chain-of-custody of address transfers, that its whois will be
the most likely candidate to fill the void that the market will create for a
central trust authority.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>ARIN will maintain order and the market will
steward the resources to their most efficient use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If ARIN reduces credibility through further
out-of-policy transfers, and it's justification policies impede the flow of
accurate information to whois, we all
lose.</FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Mike - </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> ARIN only processes transfer requests in
accordance </DIV>
<DIV> with the established number
resource policy.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>/John</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>John Curran</DIV>
<DIV>President and CEO</DIV>
<DIV>ARIN</DIV>
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