<html><head><style type="text/css">body {word-wrap: break-word; background-color:#ffffff;}</style></head><body><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px">I think the greater good is in providing complete and useful information. Naming the name might put it in an archive but "some guy told me some vendor with some switch doesn't support v6" doesn't do anyone any good.<br><br><br><br><font color="#333333"><i><span style="font-size: 14px"><font face="sans-serif">Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless</font></span></i></font></div><br><br>-----Original message-----<br><blockquote style="; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px"><b>From: </b>Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@ipinc.net><b><br>To: </b>arin-ppml@arin.net<b><br>Sent: </b>Thu, Apr 14, 2011 19:00:57 GMT+00:00<b><br>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-ppml] IPV6, Not yet (OT)<br><br></div><br>Well, here is a video of a Transition Networks guy<br>saying at least one of their Ethernet switches is IPv6<br>capable:<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tw_uJXv00">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0tw_uJXv00</a><br><br>Now in answer to your other question as to why people<br>don't name names, it is because there is a saying among marketing folks:<br><br>"bad news is better than NO news"<br><br>I've also heard it expressed:<br><br>"good news is good, but bad news is also good!"<br><br>Think for a moment that this list is archived. So a web robot<br>will be crawling the archive sooner or later and come across<br>the vendor name. That will give the vendor a boost in the<br>search engines. So by publicly naming the vendor, you<br>probably help them as much as you harm them.<br><br>You should also keep in mind the old adage about sales<br>and marketing people:<br><br>"When do you know when a marketing or sales person is lying?"<br><br>"When their lips are moving!" ;-)<br><br><br>Ted<br><br>On 4/14/2011 10:13 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:<br>> I don't understand why people feel it necessary not to shame these<br>> vendors in public. I would like to remove them from my list as well.<br>><br>> /Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless/<br>><br>><br>> -----Original message-----<br>><br>> *From: *Larry Ash <lar@mwtcorp.net>*<br>> To: *arin-ppml@arin.net*<br>> Sent: *Thu, Apr 14, 2011 16:31:25 GMT+00:00*<br>> Subject: *[arin-ppml] IPV6, Not yet (OT)<br>><br>> Sorry for the distraction,<br>> I send this along only to remind those of us that maintain IPV4 will<br>> die shortly,<br>><br>> Before purchasing switching equipment for the customer edge on a<br>> metro-ethernet<br>> deployment I questioned the manufacturer about IPV6 and here was the<br>> reply.<br>><br>> -----------------------------------------------<br>> The information I received from the Product Management team is that<br>> IPV6 is<br>> not on the road map for this product at this time. If you need any other<br>> assistance please contact us.<br>> ---------------------------------<br>> This is a fairly new product that has a lot of sexy features many of<br>> which<br>> rely on layer3 yet the manufacturer is not even planning IPV6. I did<br>> inform<br>> them that I am removing them from any consideration for any of their<br>> products.<br>><br>> The word is still not getting to management in a meaningful way.<br>><br>> Larry Ash<br>> Network Administrator<br>> Mountain West Telephone<br>> 123 W 1st St.<br>> Casper, WY 82601<br>> Office 307 233-8387<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> PPML<br>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).<br>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br>> <a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>> Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> PPML<br>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).<br>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br>> <a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>> Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>PPML<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br>Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br></blockquote></body></html>