<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 7, 2011, at 2:56 PM, ARIN wrote:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ARIN-prop-139 No reassignment without network service<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Proposal Originator: Owen DeLong<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Proposal Version: 1<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns address space<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">exclusively to the users of the network services that it provides. LIRs<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">are Network Service Providers (ISPs or NSPs), whose customers may<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">include end users and/or other ISPs/NSPs.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#540000"><br></font></blockquote>Please define where I have missed my intent so I can better clarify it.<br><br></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Just say "assigns address space to networks directly connected through a layer 2 circuit" or something. "users of the network services it provides" is exactly as vague as things are now.</div><div><br></div><div>Can I just give them a shell account or a POP email account and they're a "user of the network services"? Totally unclear.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want to explicitly require or prohibit something, come out and say it.</div><div><br></div><div>Matthew Kaufman</div><div><br></div><br></body></html>