<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Apr 6, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Wes,<br><br>Thank you for contributing to the discussion on Draft Policy 2010-3. <br><br>I've been contacted recently by several people who have expressed concerns<br>such as yours over this policy. In all cases these people, such as<br>yourself, seem to be unaware of the ARIN whois structure or how this policy<br>changes it. There are broad assumptions being made that this would do away<br>with the whois information or somehow "obscure" it and make life tough for<br>people like yourself. Most respondents I've talked to have said that they<br>need to know who ARIN has allocated IP space to. This proposal does nothing<br>to change the information that ARIN provides in a public format on who IPs<br>are allocated to. It does not obscure any data currently available on who<br>has IPs from ARIN.<br><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#144FAE"><br></font></font></div></blockquote>While this is technically true, I do not believe it is an accurate reflection of</div><div>the net effects of the policy proposal. The proposal would allow ISPs to</div><div>anonymize and/or remove significant information from records currently</div><div>published in whois as well as allowing them to not submit much of that</div><div>information to publication in the future.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that the issue is you are making a distinction between who has IP</div><div>addresses DIRECTLY from ARIN vs. who has IP addresses from an</div><div>upstream which received them either directly or indirectly from ARIN.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe that Wes and others who have commented actually care about</div><div>who the end-user of an IP address block is rather than merely who it was</div><div>issued to by ARIN.</div><div><br></div><div>Wes, could you please clarify your intent here?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div></body></html>