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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The notion of “strictly confidential” end users somehow seems to
go against the entire fundamental idea that the Internet is a community
resource. It does not belong to the ISP or to the end user.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The best analogy for this that I can think if is some apartment
building owner demanding that all of his residents have his name and phone
number listed in directory assistance because some other apartment building
owner keeps calling them offering them better deals on rent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rudolph
Daniel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Draft policy 2010-3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does the strictly confidence mean,
no arbitrary free public access? if so then there would have to be
some procedure for access to the information. Correct me if I am mistaken but I
dont think ARIN is in the network trouble shooting business. But it should have
as much information as possible on its assignments.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>RD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:12 PM, George Bonser <<a
href="mailto:gbonser@seven.com">gbonser@seven.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>And does “strictest confidence” mean
nobody can access it? If so, does ARIN want to troubleshoot problems
concerning those “strictly confidential” networks out there? Or at least place
itself in the middle of such troubleshooting or injecting itself in the middle
of disputes concerning nefarious network activity?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rudolph Daniel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arin-ppml] Draft policy 2010-3</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> "The customer's actual information
must be provided to ARIN <span style='background:#FFFF66'>on request</span> and
will be held in the strictest confidence."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The
wording of 2010-3: I think that the "on request" should be a
mandatory requirement. ARIN should not have to request it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>RD<o:p></o:p></p>
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Rudi Daniel<br>
e Business Consultant<br>
<a href="http://www.svgpso.org">http://www.svgpso.org</a><br>
<a href="http://oecstimes.wordpress.com">http://oecstimes.wordpress.com</a><br>
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” - Bertrand Russell<o:p></o:p></p>
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