<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>David Farmer wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Thanks, Ted that was a good summary.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Naturally the AC will need to make the "official" determination<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">but it looks like we will be discussing this.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Actually that is Staff's job, if the AC did that, it would be the fox guarding the chicken coop. The the Staff is much better at counting then us on the AC anyway, you know they have to count out each IP address right, just like a teller does at the bank. :) Talk about a barrier to IPv6 adoption. :) (only kidding) ARIN Staff is great!!!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But, I believe most of the AC was watching, I know I was.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marshall your arguments! :-)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And yes you should do that, may I suggest everyone take a step back and take a breath first.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">So, a little more serious now;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I would like to ask the community to think about how we all want this to work. Personally, I've been waiting for the petition process to kick in. I actually think it is a healthy thing and shows the process is working. But, we are setting precedent, this is the first petition for the new PDP, so lets try to make it good precedent and all do our part to make the system work. The first use of the Emergency PDP last year, wasn't the greatest experience for our community. I would hope we can make this first a much better experience for us all.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">And we all will play a part in making it a good experience.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This got people charged up,<br></blockquote><br>Of course it did. The success of the petition means one thing - that<br>the AC made a bad decision.<br><br></div></blockquote>I disagree. I think the AC made the absolutely correct decision and that</div><div>the petition means that 10 or more members of the community disagree</div><div>with the AC's decision sufficiently strongly that they successfully petitioned</div><div>it. That's how the process is supposed to work. There's nothing wrong</div><div>with it.</div><div><br></div><div>I think in the end, it is likely that the community as a whole will uphold</div><div>the AC's decision, but, in this case, there's enough dissent that it merits</div><div>consideration of the full community and that's what is happening.</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>My only observation on this is that I think if the AC had been<br>more specific (and long) on the explanation of why it was dropped<br>that people might not have supported the petition.<br><br></div></blockquote>Perhaps. I guess there's a question of resource allocation there in terms</div><div>of how much AC time should be spent justifying a decision to abandon</div><div>vs. focusing on things still on the docket. I'm not saying we did the</div><div>absolutely correct thing in this case, merely that there is a tradeoff to</div><div>be considered that isn't part of your previous paragraph.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>They are not writing a UNIX man page, after all.<br><br></div></blockquote>Yeah, but, we don't have time to write War and Peace, either.</div><div>Unlike the supreme court, we aren't flooded with volunteer students</div><div>seeking to put Law Clerk in the Supreme Court on their resume.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div></body></html>