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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Out of curiosity, how do you plan on using an IPv6 allocation if
you have no transit provider who can announce it for you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Have you considered using Hurricane Electric or Freenet6 to get
the space, which seems like a better fit for what you’ve got?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net
[mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua King<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arin-ppml] 2008-3 Support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sorry to be late weighing in on the proposal in this whole
process.<br>
<br>
I was partly responsible for the initial version of this proposal, and it grew
out of a long, iterative process. Initially, my organization, Acorn Active
Media Foundation, attempted to get an IPv6 address allocation from ARIN that we
could experiment with and find uses for across several disparate systems that
we managed across a collection of local, technology-oriented non-profits that
we co-managed the computer infrastructure for; these organizations would
probably be considered community networks. They include Chambana.net, a
community co-location and hosting co-operative that runs a collection of
servers that host mailinglists, websites, email, and other services for dozens
of community organizations; the Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network
(CUWiN), which develops open-source wireless mesh software and deploys networks
both within Champaign-Urbana, Illinois where it's located and within other
communities around the country; and the Urbana-Champaign Independent Media
Center (UCIMC), a large community media, arts, and journalism center which runs
public computer labs as well and electronic media creation training along with
its other projects. We wanted to get an IPv6 allocation to see what we could do
with it, for a number of reasons. We were paying $165/month for a 1Mb upstream
connection and 4 "sticky" public IPv4 addresses with donations, and couldn't
afford anything better (nothing was available that was less expensive, all of
our equipment donated, all of our work volunteer, and no budget). We used 4
semi-static addresses to provide public services upstream from 10 servers and
80+ wireless nodes, and hoped that getting IPv6 addresses could allow us to
better manage our systems for those that supported IPv6. We wanted to
experiment with how global addressing space might allow us to experiment with
CUWiN's mobile wireless systems, or tie together multiple networks in different
locations: CUWiN manages networks in Champaign-Urbana, Illinois; Homer,
Illinois; and Mesa Verda, California, and is allied with Seattle Wireless, NYC
Wireless, Wireless Philadelphia, and Open Air Boston; UCIMC is the global hub
of over 200 independent journalism centers worldwide. And since IPv6 is
presumably the future of the Internet, we wanted to start supporting it as soon
as possible (our current upstream provider didn't support IPv6).<br>
<br>
But when we tried to apply for space, ARIN didn't seem sure what to do with us.
So it was recommmended that we put in a policy proposal, which would provide a
niche that would encourage community networks like the ones that we represented
to apply for space, by letting them know it was possible. I honestly think that
this proposal would be beneficial, to the organizations like those above and
others like them. Even if it doesn't eventually result in a policy that reduces
fees, I think it will let community networks know that there's a place for them
in the greater Internet community.<br>
<br>
A common criticism of community networks is that they are difficult to define;
I think that that is unfortunately true. It's much like the phrase
"community organization," commonly used in organizing and non-profit
policy, that people don't really know what it means. I hesitate to refer to
Wikipedia, but I feel like they give a pretty good if broad definition of
community network: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_network/"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_network/</a>. It is
however a subjective definition dependent upon purpose and motivation within
the group, rather than something that can be nailed down under budget, staff
size, or fiscal status. Thus I agree with the need for discretion within the AC
on qualifying organizations.<br>
<br>
However, here's a list of some community networks that I know of (sorry there
are a lot from Illinois, and a large wireless bias; those are just regions and
fields I'm involved with). Maybe they can provide an example:<br>
Acorn Active Media Foundation<br>
UCIMC<br>
CUWiN<br>
Chambana.net<br>
Tribal Digital Village, provides network services and outreach on California
reservations<br>
Prairienet, a community access project and dial-up ISP sponsored by the
University of Illinois<br>
Seattle Wireless, a community wireless network<br>
Personal Telco Project, a community wireless network based in Portland<br>
Portland Community Media, a community technology center (CTC)<br>
Denver Open Media, a CTC and public access station in Denver that deploys
open-source publishing platforms in other public access stations<br>
Mountain Area Information Network, a CTC, public radio and television station,
and ISP in Asheville, NC<br>
Ile Sans Fil, a community wireless network and volunteer open-source software
developer in Montreal<br>
Austin Wireless, a community wireless network<br>
Wireless Philadelphia, first a public metro wifi network, then defunct
commercial network, now getting restarted as community-oriented again<br>
Public Internet Project, digital divide outreach non-profit and community
wireless network<br>
NetEquality, outreach and activism, vendor of discount wireless equipment<br
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<br>
-- <br>
Josh King<br>
--<br>
Treasurer, Acorn Active Media Foundation<br>
Systems Engineer, Chambana.net and CUWiN<br>
Technical Coordinator, UCIMC<br>
Adjunct Technologist, Open Technology Initiative<o:p></o:p></p>
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